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From: "Canek Peláez Valdés" <caneko@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] udev + /usr
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 14:49:03
Message-Id: CADPrc82gJRtBAyQ9B44m1WVacO9poEnVoCmTpxy1YVvQHuS8MA@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] udev + /usr by Alan Mackenzie
1 On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 6:25 AM, Alan Mackenzie <acm@×××.de> wrote:
2 > On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 05:10:40PM -0400, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
3 >
4 >> > Is it simply subscribing to -dev and voicing the conversation there?
5 >
6 >> Of course not. But please, do that if you think it will help to steer
7 >> Gentoo to whatever direction do you think is the correct one.
8 >> Personaly I don't think the devs (who, AFAIK, do not receive a single
9 >> dime for working on Gentoo) will appreciate anybody telling them how
10 >> they should do their jobs, the one they do for free. But that's just
11 >> me.
12 >
13 > I think so.  Most devs are grateful for (polite) feedback, and take it
14 > into account when doing their work.  I suspect they're unaware of just
15 > how much this change to booting is disliked by Gentoo users.
16
17 Then, by all means, do it. I would think is a little silly to think
18 that the devs are "unaware" of the huge threads this change has
19 generated on -user, but maybe I'm wrong. Maybe someone should tell
20 them.
21
22 >> No, by "you know what needs to be done" I mean: code. Contribute.
23 >> Become a developer. Make shit happens the way you think it should
24 >> happen.
25 >
26 >> Shut up and code. Google it, I didn't come with the phrase.
27 >
28 > Just as a matter of interest, how much coding have you done for open
29 > source or free software?  It was conspicuously absent from the CV you
30 > posted here a few days ago.
31
32 Well, it wasn't really my CV (I would not bore to death the list with
33 it), and I don't think it has nothing to do with the dicussion at
34 hand, but the answer is: "not that much". There is code of mine in
35 several projects in the stack, but it's usually simple things or
36 one-liners. I have (like many on this list) my share of bug reports,
37 first versions of ebuilds and testing, but nothing out of the
38 ordinary. I enjoy too much so many other pleasures to be able to give
39 so much of my free time to free software development.
40
41 And that's exactly why I respect so much the devs. They actually do
42 it. It's not only pragmatism to say that whatever happens it will
43 happen because of the people coding whatever is necessary for it to
44 happen. It's also because they actually *deserve* to be the ones that
45 decide what should happen.
46
47 Code talks.
48
49 Regards.
50 --
51 Canek Peláez Valdés
52 Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación
53 Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México