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On Wednesday, December 13, 2017 9:06:29 AM CET Alan McKinnon wrote: |
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> On 13/12/2017 01:23, allan gottlieb wrote: |
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> > On Mon, Dec 11 2017, Jorge Almeida wrote: |
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> >> On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 7:31 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés <caneko@×××××.com> |
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wrote: |
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> >>> Just my two cents. I will not answer any reply to my little contribution |
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> >>> to |
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> >>> this thread; |
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> >> |
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> >> Good. I can't remember any intervention from you that I would miss. |
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> > That makes one of us. |
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> > As a gnome user I needed to use systemd when gnome-3 came about. While |
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> > I have nothing useful to say pro or con about systemd, I strongly |
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> > believe Canek has contributed a number of helpful comments to this |
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> > group. |
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> Yes, this. |
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> Some historical correctnesses about Canek: |
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> - He has been here for years |
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> - He has contributed here for years |
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> - He supports systemd and has offered more help and explanation about |
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> systemd to it's users on this list than any other single person, bar none |
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> - He has never, not once, slagged off SysV Init, OpenRC or any other |
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> init system, ot the creators or the users |
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> - He has never posted rude or inflamatory comments about anyone arguing |
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> against him |
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> - He has never resorted to ad-hominem and never posted any knee jerk |
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> opinions about any other poster wrt their stance on init systems |
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+1 |
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I may not agree with Canek on all things: |
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- I do dislike systemd, especially on Centos where disabling services doesn't |
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always work past a reboot |
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- Users who can't write code also have a right to be heard and their wishes |
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should still be honestly considered |
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But the conversations have always been civil. And information from him has |
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always been helpful. He is one of the few people on this list whose comments I |
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read and who I do miss when there isn't something for a while. |
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> If we look at the reverse we see a very different picture, and it's |
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> right here in this very thread. To the poster who rudely commented about |
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> Canek being a professor and that doesn't make him right and that he is |
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> one voice, step back pal and take a very long hard look at what you |
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> said. Yes, it doesn't make him right. Also doesn't make him wrong. His |
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> posts and the content are what make him right or wrong. There truly are |
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> fan bois on this list, but Canek is not one of them. It's the |
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> systemd-haters and Poeterring-haters who are being fan bois, painting |
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> all detractors with the same brush. |
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Canek bases his "being a fan of systemd" on what he needs and wants from a |
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computer. For him, systemd fits that requirement perfectly. |
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> Frankly, I'm amazed Canek is still here considering the amount of abuse |
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> he takes from this list. He must have thick skin or maybe dealing with |
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> detractors is a crucial part of academic training. I myself would have |
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> rage quitted a long time ago but he is still here. |
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> A good healthy dose of manners like your Mama taught you is in short |
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> supply around here right now. |
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+1 (again) |