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From: Alan Mackenzie <acm@×××.de>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is gnome becoming obligatory?
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2017 19:03:03
Message-Id: 20171212185515.GA5274@ACM
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is gnome becoming obligatory? by "J García"
1 Hello.
2
3 On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 01:01:29 -0600, J García wrote:
4 > 2017-12-11 15:03 GMT-06:00 Alan Mackenzie <acm@×××.de>:
5 > > OK. But it's still there taking up RAM, and (more importantly) makes a
6 > > systemd system a broader target for attacks. Whether a system has an
7 > > http server (or, for that matter, an SSH server), for whatever purpose,
8 > > should be for the system administrator to decide. I suspect this isn't
9 > > the case for systemd's http server.
10
11 > Too much suspicion, too much assumtions,
12
13 One doesn't get by in contemporary life without them. My suspicion,
14 founded on the content of a normally reliable mailing list (this one) is
15 that systemd would (i) build into my system much that I don't want to
16 use; (ii) would force me into using some of that stuff. openrc doesn't
17 have these attributes.
18
19 > $ equery -N u systemd | grep http
20 > - - http : Enable embedded HTTP server in journald
21
22 > $ grep -C 2 http $PORTDIR/sys-apps/systemd/systemd-235-r1.ebuild
23
24 > 42: http? (
25 > 43: >=net-libs/libmicrohttpd-0.9.33:0=
26 > 44- ssl? ( >=net-libs/gnutls-3.1.4:0= )
27 > 45- )
28
29
30 > 42: http? (
31 > 43: >=net-libs/libmicrohttpd-0.9.33:0=
32 > 44- ssl? ( >=net-libs/gnutls-3.1.4:0= )
33 > 45- )
34
35 > I prefer certainty, don't you?
36
37 If certainty were free of costs, or even cheap, then yes.
38
39 > It is actually more useful to check the software, than lose your time
40 > with so many words on this list.
41
42 No, it would take far too much time and effort to check out the
43 software, particularly for something I have no use for.
44
45 You seem to know systemd reasonably well - maybe you've got it
46 installed and you're using it. Please tell me whether my suspicion
47 above (that systemd builds stuff into the system that is likely to be
48 superfluous to a user, and possibly forces its use on its users) is well
49 founded.
50
51 Thanks!
52
53 --
54 Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is gnome becoming obligatory? Wols Lists <antlists@××××××××××××.uk>
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is gnome becoming obligatory? Neil Bothwick <neil@××××××××××.uk>