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From: Mike Gilbert <floppym@g.o>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Block multiple IP addresses; iptables or route...reject?
Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2017 16:14:04
Message-Id: CAJ0EP40LVAC3oK8tPTd9aAjcsKdP9K+Ta8ek4WMJoM4EA5oK2g@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: [gentoo-user] [OT] Block multiple IP addresses; iptables or route...reject? by Walter Dnes
1 On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 1:28 AM, Walter Dnes <waltdnes@××××××××.org> wrote:
2 > I have some doubts about massive "hosts" files for adblocking. I
3 > downloaded one that listed 13,148 sites. I fed them through a script
4 > that called "host" for each entry, and saved the output to a text file.
5 > The result was 1,059 addresses. Note that some adservers have multiple
6 > IP address entries for the same name. A back-of-the-envelope analysis
7 > is that close to 95% of the entries in the large host file are invalid,
8 > amd return "not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)".
9 >
10 > I'm not here to trash the people compiling the lists; the problem is
11 > that hosts files are the wrong tool for the job. Advertisers know about
12 > hosts files and deliberately generate random subdomain names with short
13 > lifetimes to invalidate the hosts files. Every week the sites are
14 > probably mostly renamed. Further analysis of the 1,059 addresses show
15 > 810 unique entries, i.e. 249 duplicates. It gets even better. 44
16 > addresses show up in 52.84.146.xxx; I should probably block the entire
17 > /24 with one entry. There are multiple similar occurences, which could
18 > be aggregated into small CIDRs. So the number of blocking rules is
19 > greatly reduced.
20 >
21 > I'm not a deep networking expert. My question is whether I'm better
22 > off adding iptables reject/drop rules or "reject routes", e.g...
23 >
24 > route add -net 10.0.0.0 netmask 255.0.0.0 metric 1024 reject
25 >
26 > (an example from the "route" man page). iptables rules have to be
27 > duplicated coming and going to catch inbound and outbound traffic. A
28 > reject route only needs to be entered once. This excercise is intended
29 > to block web adservers, so another question is how web browsers react to
30 > route versus iptables blocking.
31
32 Using the routing table feels dirty.
33
34 I don't see any reason to create "inbound" (INPUT) iptables rules. You
35 really only care about rejecting the initial outbound request to the
36 web server.
37
38 If this is for a single host with iptables running locally, add rules
39 to the OUTPUT chain. If this is on a router, add them to the FORWARD
40 chain.

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Block multiple IP addresses; iptables or route...reject? mad.scientist.at.large@××××××××.com