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From: Marc Joliet <marcec@×××.de>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is gnome becoming obligatory?
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2017 11:47:00
Message-Id: 2414437.FVJPxv1ApR@thetick
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is gnome becoming obligatory? by Neil Bothwick
1 Am Mittwoch, 13. Dezember 2017, 12:04:03 CET schrieb Neil Bothwick:
2 > On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 10:06:29 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
3 > > Some historical correctnesses about Canek:
4 > >
5 > > - He has been here for years
6 > > - He has contributed here for years
7 > > - He supports systemd and has offered more help and explanation about
8 > > systemd to it's users on this list than any other single person, bar
9 > > none
10 > > - He has never, not once, slagged off SysV Init, OpenRC or any other
11 > > init system, ot the creators or the users
12 > > - He has never posted rude or inflamatory comments about anyone arguing
13 > > against him
14 > > - He has never resorted to ad-hominem and never posted any knee jerk
15 > > opinions about any other poster wrt their stance on init systems
16 > >
17 > > If we look at the reverse we see a very different picture, and it's
18 > > right here in this very thread. To the poster who rudely commented about
19 > > Canek being a professor and that doesn't make him right and that he is
20 > > one voice, step back pal and take a very long hard look at what you
21 > > said. Yes, it doesn't make him right. Also doesn't make him wrong. His
22 > > posts and the content are what make him right or wrong. There truly are
23 > > fan bois on this list, but Canek is not one of them. It's the
24 > > systemd-haters and Poeterring-haters who are being fan bois, painting
25 > > all detractors with the same brush.
26 >
27 > +1
28 >
29 > It was Canek's rational explanations about systemd that made me
30 > interested enough to try it, and I'm glad I did. He made good technical
31 > arguments in favour of it whereas most of the arguments against it are
32 > either based on Lennartphobia or false fact gained from other systemd
33 > haters.
34
35 +1 to both Alan and Neil.
36
37 > I also see the position as somewhat different with Gentoo, because openrc
38 > is so much better than the other "traditional" systems out there, in fact
39 > it shares some of the benefits of systemd. As a result, I run a mixture
40 > of both systems. I prefer systemd now, but not enough to go through the
41 > hassle of switching over an already working system. That wouldn't be the
42 > case if those other systems weren't running openrc.
43
44 That echoes my own sentiment pretty well. OpenRC is one reason I stayed with
45 Gentoo, because it seemed better to me than the way other distros did things
46 (well, better than Suse, at least, which was the other distro I tried way back
47 then).
48
49 However, now I default to systemd, because for me it's even better than
50 OpenRC. Plus, I don't have so many systems that I couldn't migrate them all
51 :-) .
52
53 --
54 Marc Joliet
55 --
56 "People who think they know everything really annoy those of us who know we
57 don't" - Bjarne Stroustrup

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