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On Samstag 22 Mai 2010, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: |
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> On 05/22/2010 07:59 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: |
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> > On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 1:21 AM, Nikos Chantziaras<realnc@×××××.de> |
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wrote: |
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> >> Latency is the delay between giving the order to play a sound and the |
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> >> sound actually being played. It's usually around 30ms here with |
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> >> ALSA/dmix, and around 10ms with OSS/vmix. It's not funny trying to |
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> >> play something in a software synth with a keyboard when having a 30ms |
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> >> latency. |
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> > As I said, you're doing it wrong. No "normal" (average desktop, media |
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> > center, laptop, linux-phone) user needs 10ms of latency in audio. |
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> > That's overkill. Yours is a special case, and you need special |
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> > software. Try Jack. |
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> I don't do professional audio. I have a normal PC. And just like I |
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> sometimes use a synth in Windows (I'm just a hobbyist), I'd like to do |
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> the same in Linux. |
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> Windows: I don't need Jack there. Audio latency is low even with |
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> non-ASIO drivers. |
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> Linux: I suddenly need "Jack" and specialty hacks and must do without a |
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> mixer! No thanks. OSSv4 allows me to use my machine in the same manner |
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> as Windows: It just works and does the right thing regardless of the |
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> application I'm running. |
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> ALSA/Pulse needing third-party stuff just to get basics right |
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> (acceptable latency; not *ultra* low latency, just acceptable one) is a |
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> sign that they're not designed right. |
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> And OSS4 dying because of kernel-mixing is a bit far-stretched. "No FP |
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> mixing in kernel" is Linux-specific. Other kernels don't have a problem |
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> with that. |
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> And in the end, you know what? Even if OSS4 had a broken design, it's |
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> still better, because it works better. At least it gets the basics |
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> right. Other operating systems are much more advanced in that manner. |
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> It's ALSA that holds Linux audio back. |
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in case that it works at all. OSSv4 fucked up very hard here. |
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And for some magical reasons, I have no problem at all with latencies. |
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But sometimes you complain about latencies, and when people showing up, that |
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lats are not a problem, you switch over to 'volume' and 'mixing'. Just to |
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ignore the facts presented there. |
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Go troll somewhere else. Maybe the OSS fanboy mailing list. |
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