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From: Greg Woodbury <redwolfe@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: [gentoo-user] some of the stuff in /usr that's become a problem
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2013 02:03:21
Message-Id: 5248DBDF.2070902@gmail.com
1 One of the most obvious things that broke booting with a seperate /usr
2 is not GNOMEs fault, but GRUB 2's fault.
3
4 the move of /bin to /usr/bin (for things like cp,mv,ln,ls) came after
5 the breakage of /usr, but is symptomatic of some distros cavalier
6 attitudes to the problem.
7
8 /usr/lib/udev.....
9 /usr/lib/systemd.....
10
11 were both placed in /usr despite objections from a number of folks.
12
13 So claims that udev and systemd are not responsible are not true.
14
15 /usr/lib/e2initrd-helper was placed in /usr despite objections.
16 /usr/lib/libdevmapper* was moved despite objections...
17 /usr/lib/liblvm2* helpers were placed in /usr despite objections...
18
19 There were deliberate placements of "new" or updated libraries in /usr
20 that were known ahead of time that would break the use of a separate
21 /usr filesystem.
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23 It was pointed out quite plainly at the time, and the placements were
24 made anyway, dismissing the concerns are "mere historical artifacts" or
25 "clinging to ancient and outmoded traditions."
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27 The *same things* are still being cited (about being outmoded) in
28 dismissing concers about forcing useres to adopt technologies they do
29 not want to use.

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Re: [gentoo-user] some of the stuff in /usr that's become a problem Daniel Campbell <lists@××××××××.us>
[gentoo-user] Re: some of the stuff in /usr that's become a problem "»Q«" <boxcars@×××.net>
Re: [gentoo-user] some of the stuff in /usr that's become a problem Neil Bothwick <neil@××××××××××.uk>