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From: Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anyone switched to eudev yet?
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2012 07:00:56
Message-Id: 20121224085528.56f535ec@khamul.example.com
In Reply to: [gentoo-user] Re: Anyone switched to eudev yet? by nunojsilva@ist.utl.pt (Nuno J. Silva)
1 On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 19:03:25 +0200
2 nunojsilva@×××××××.pt (Nuno J. Silva) wrote:
3
4 > On 2012-12-23, Alan McKinnon wrote:
5 >
6 > > On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 12:22:24 +0200
7 > > nunojsilva@×××××××.pt (Nuno J. Silva) wrote:
8 > >
9 > >> On 2012-12-18, Alan McKinnon wrote:
10 > >>
11 > >> > On Tue, 18 Dec 2012 09:08:53 -0500
12 > >> > Michael Mol <mikemol@×××××.com> wrote:
13 > >> >
14 > >> >
15 > >> > This sentence summarizes my understanding of your post nicely:
16 > >> >
17 > >> >> Now, why is /usr special? It's because it contains executable
18 > >> >> code the system might require while launching.
19 > >> >
20 > >> > Now there are only two approaches that could solve that problem:
21 > >> >
22 > >> > 1. Avoid it entirely
23 > >> > 2. Deal with it using any of a variety of bootstrap techniques
24 > >> >
25 > >> > #1 is handled by policy, whereby any code the system might
26 > >> > require while launching is not in /usr.
27 > >> >
28 > >> > #2 already has a solution, it's called an init*. Other solutions
29 > >> > exist but none are as elegant as a throwaway temporary filesystem
30 > >> > in RAM.
31 > >>
32 > >> What about just mounting /usr as soon as the system boots?
33 > >
34 > >
35 > > Please read the thread next time. The topic under discussion is
36 > > solutions to the problem of not being able to do exactly that.
37 >
38 > Then I suppose you can surely explain in a nutshell why can't init
39 > scripts simply do that?
40 >
41
42 It is trivially easy to create a circular loop whereby code required to
43 mount /usr now resides on /usr.
44
45 Which is the entire thrust of this whole thread.
46
47 --
48 Alan McKinnon
49 alan.mckinnon@×××××.com

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