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On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 00:07:08 +0200 |
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Volker Armin Hemmann <volkerarmin@××××××××××.com> wrote: |
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> Am Montag, 10. September 2012, 15:19:38 schrieb Walter Dnes: |
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> > On Sun, Sep 09, 2012 at 08:41:36AM +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote |
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> > > On Sat, 8 Sep 2012 23:42:45 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote: |
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> > > > > Isn't readline enabled by default on all reasonable profiles? |
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> > > > > Do you have USE="-* in make.conf? If so, it's just bitten you. |
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> > > > > |
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> > > > Yup. I did that to avoid further surprises after the |
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> > > > developers "in |
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> > > > |
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> > > > their infinite wisdom" had IPV6 "enabled by default on all |
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> > > > reasonable profiles". Watching Firefox and mplayer spinning |
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> > > > their wheels for 45 seconds at a time till IPV6 lookups timed |
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> > > > out was not fun. |
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> > > |
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> > > I'd rather have that that an unusable shell. As was noted |
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> > > elsewhere this weekend, even if a USE flag is set but renamed, -* |
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> > > screws it up. |
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> > |
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> > So no matter what I do or don't do, a developer can find a way to |
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> > screw me up. Next thing you know, I'll have to re-partition my |
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> > system or else replace udev with mdev, to boot up... oops. |
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> wtf are you talking about? Just because you are unable to look at |
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> changed useflags when glancing over the output of emerge -a is not an |
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> excuse for using something idiotic like -*. |
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> Doing so and then complaining is just vile. |
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He seems to have reacted badly to a singular bad experience with a |
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dodgy ebuild. |
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It's a classic case of seeing the one occasion where something went |
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wrong and not see the 999 cases where it didn't. Then truing to deal |
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with the 1 for the future "just in case" |
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I get a similar kind of thing often at work. Someone makes a mistake |
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and a chunk of the network goes down. The next day I might get a |
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draconian mail from some manager demanding that vast sweeping changes |
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to login rules be implemented "just in case this ever happens again". |
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Lucky for the company I have some cajones and just say no. Then I |
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investigate and 3 times out of 4 I find the broken router is running |
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some weird version of Cisco IOS which does something completely |
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unexpected with a perfectly ordinary command. The other 1 time I always |
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find a bat-shit crazy business customization that no sane engineer |
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would ever have signed off on. |
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The solution is never to try change the behaviour of all the humans. |
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The solution is to change the behaviour of the one faulty machine when |
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it breaks, and have many smart humans around with brains that can spot |
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the busted machine quickly. |
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Alan McKinnon |
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alan.mckinnon@×××××.com |
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