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From: Stroller <stroller@××××××××××××××××××.uk>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] export LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8
Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2013 16:41:22
Message-Id: 54F7DE7A-2D80-45D9-B373-63AE1A832B47@stellar.eclipse.co.uk
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] export LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 by Kerin Millar
1 On 7 August 2013, at 13:41, Kerin Millar wrote:
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3 > On 06/08/2013 23:42, Stroller wrote:
4 >>
5 >> On 6 August 2013, at 14:04, Kerin Millar wrote:
6 >>> ...
7 >>> If undefined, the value of LC_COLLATE is inherited from LANG. I'm not sure that overriding it is particularly useful nowadays but it doesn't hurt.
8 >>
9 >> It's been a couple of years since I looked into this, but I'm given to believe that LANG should set all LC_ variables correctly, and that overriding them is frowned upon.
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11 > As has been mentioned, there are valid reasons to want to override the collation. Here is a concrete example:
12 >
13 > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-gnu-utils/2003-08/msg00537.html
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15 > Strictly speaking, grep is correct to behave that way but it can be confounding.
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17 Linking also this answer, which you're aware of:
18 https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-gnu-utils/2003-08/msg00600.html
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20 This only goes to illustrate that you shouldn't be going overriding these willy-nilly without full awareness of why you're doing so and what you're doing.
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23 >> I had to do this myself because, due to a bug, the en_GB time formatting failed to display am or pm. I believe this should be fixed now.
24 >
25 > Presumably:
26 >
27 > a) LANG was defined inappropriately
28 > b) LANG was defined appropriately but LC_TIME was defined otherwise
29 > c) LC_ALL was defined, trumping all
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32 I'm having trouble parsing this reply, but perhaps you might find the full bug description helpful. I wrote about 1000 words on the subject there last year.
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34 It is the top Google hit for "en_gb am pm bug": http://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3768
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36 Stroller.

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Re: [gentoo-user] export LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 Kerin Millar <kerframil@×××××××××××.uk>