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Holly Bostick wrote: |
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> Sorry, I don't use NTFS, and I only have one user (me)-- and I don't use |
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> /mnt/cdrom or /mnt/cdrw (or /mnt/ anything other than the self-created |
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> /mnt/iso for mounting loopback images)-- my DVD is mounted to |
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> /media/(cdrecorder) by udev (afaik it's udev that does it). |
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I take it that you also have hald or ivman sorting out your mounts |
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automatically for you? |
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> I take it you don't use udev? Or are you just under the impression that |
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> you have to have /mnt/something (I had this problem for the first bit |
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> after I switched)? In general use, /mnt./blah is kinda deprecated. |
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I am using udev but never bothered with automounting (yet). |
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> However, I do know that enabling writing to NTFS partitions in the |
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> kernel is not recommended, unless you meet very specific criteria (as |
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> the kernel driver can only overwrite a file of the exact same size to |
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> such a partition, making editing pre-existing files pretty much |
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> impossible; no idea about creating a new file). |
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As I understand it the same applies with editing unless the changes result |
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in exactly the same size file. Right, what are the chances of that?! The |
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only way to rw NTFS partitions safely is with Captive, which uses the |
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ntfs.sys driver with WINE. |
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> UID/GID is (kinda) necessary for VFAT partitions, only to deal with the |
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> possible ownership issues; if you specify the UID/GID of the expected |
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> owner, that UID/GID can/will have write privileges to the partition |
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> (automatically if UID, when specified if GID), which is useful for |
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> shared partitions across multiple distros or OSes and sometimes for |
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> multiple users on the same OS. |
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I just tried it out and as long as I do not specify ro vfat partitions get |
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mounted with rw rights, even if I do not add the uid. From memory I think |
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that I had to add the uid in the distant past when devfs/udev was playing |
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up with a particular kernel version - but can't remember for sure. |
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>> The specific one is that I tried to delete a folder from a |
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>> re-writable CD: a)while I was browsing it in konqueror and b)using |
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>> k3b, but it couldn't do it. I'll try again when I get home to see if |
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>> it behaves as expected after I ensure that it has not been mounted. |
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> Um, hello, this is not WindowsXP. We do not packet-write (that means |
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> treat a CD as if it was a floppy and write to it directly from the file |
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> manager). You can (kinda) do this, if your kernel is set up to enable |
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> packet-writing, but honestly that functionality is quite unstable and I |
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> wouldn't use it even if I did like packet writing (which I do not and |
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> never have in the some 6 to 7 years since it was introduced). |
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Sorry, I guess it shows that the only (limited) CD writing experience I had |
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was in M$Windoze at work (with Nero & Roxio)? |
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> Basically what would need to happen in the real (Linux) world, without |
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> packet writing, is that a CD burning program would have to create a temp |
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> ISO of the files on the CDRW (which afaik it would have to be) without |
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> the folder that you intended to delete, erase the current contents of |
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> the CDRW and then rewrite the CDRW with the new ISO (which would |
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> essentially delete the folder). But I could be wrong, as I don't use -RW |
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> media anymore (and this is one of the reasons why). |
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I can't remember if I have enabled packer writing in that machine. When I |
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get access to it I'll check it out. Thanks for your help! :-) |
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Regards, |
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Mick |
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