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From: Mark Knecht <markknecht@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server-1.5 update/old kernel+old fglrx
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 00:42:45
In Reply to: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server-1.5 update/old kernel+old fglrx by Nikos Chantziaras
1 On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 5:33 PM, Nikos Chantziaras<realnc@×××××.de> wrote:
2 > On 06/24/2009 03:27 AM, Mark Knecht wrote:
3 >>
4 >> Gentoo is for me. Gentoo is the only distro I run and the only one
5 >> I've run for at least 6 years. Gentoo has run on THIS VERY MACHINE for
6 >> over 4 years and it is the ONLY distro that has EVER run on this
7 >> machine. Today I run eix-sync and emerge xorg-x11 and the machine
8 >> breaks and I cannot go back. It is not my choice that Gentoo
9 >> maintainers decided to drop something from portage required to make
10 >> this machine run and not give me a way to get it back. Portage chose
11 >> to erase files on MY machine - files that are required to make the
12 >> machine work. Gentoo package maintainers decided to obsolete my
13 >> machine, not me.
14 >
15 > You should have taken a backup of /usr/portage and created binary packages
16 > using "quickpgk" before the update.  Portage can't contain every ancient
17 > version of every package out there.  It would grow to infinity.  Old stuff
18 > has to go.  That's the very nature of Gentoo's "rolling release" nature (or
19 > on other words, its lack of a "stable" notion.)
21 I have NEVER asked portage to keep a copy of EVERYTHING online. I
22 think it's a sinthat portage decides to remove files from MY machine,
23 files that I'm currently using, files that I require.
25 Sure, easy to blame it on me with Gentoo. quickpkg might have been a
26 solution if I'd known about it, so it's my fault. It's certainly not
27 the fault of the designers of portage who could have checked to ensure
28 that I had a binary package before they removed my files, or could
29 have required an extra override at the command line to simply inform
30 me they were going to take away MY files. No, I'm sure they don't care
31 if they break machines. It's easy to chuckle in private instead of
32 making a system that can go backward one step on this machine. One
33 step, that's all. But yes, it's my fault.
35 >
36 > Anyway, see my other post, maybe you can go on with the update and have it
37 > working in the end.
38 >
40 Yes, I read that. Thanks.
42 >
43 >> I'm sure there's some way to get things back working again but I don't
44 >> know what they are.
45 >
46 > The rule is simple.  If a fresh installation of Gentoo wouldn't work, you're
47 > out of luck.  Gentoo lacks releases.  Either you change hardware or
48 > distribution.
49 >
51 There is no way for me to know that any other distribution will fix
52 this short of trying them. that's just not practical.
54 - Mark


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server-1.5 update/old kernel+old fglrx Neil Bothwick <neil@××××××××××.uk>