Re: [gentoo-user] InitRAMFS - boot expert sought

[Dale]

Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 17:31:06 -0500
> Dale <rdalek1967@×××××.com> wrote:
>
>> Alan McKinnon wrote:
>>> On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 16:59:30 -0500
>>> Dale <rdalek1967@×××××.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Mark Knecht wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 1:36 PM, Dale <rdalek1967@×××××.com>
>>>>> wrote: <SNIP>
>>>>>  Right now, my plan is to mask udev at what it is and either
>>>>>> switch to another distro
>>>>> <SNIP>
>>>>>
>>>>> Just remember, with distros it's the device you know for the devil
>>>>> you don't know...
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't understand why any of this /usr /udev stuff is bothering
>>>>> you. Do you really use a separate /usr? Aren't you on stable like
>>>>> me or are you on ~amd64?
>>>>>
>>>>> Good luck. I'm positive you'll come to your senses about this
>>>>> Ubuntu nonsense! ;-)))
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Mark
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> My plan was to put / on ext4, /boot on ext2 and everything else on
>>>> LVM. That would incluse /usr, /usr/portage, /var and /home.  I have
>>>> not done that yet because doing it would force me to make a choice
>>>> very soon since this mess is coming pretty soon.
>>>
>>> That's easy to fix. It takes a while and it's mind-numbingly boring,
>>> but it's easy.
>>>
>>> All you need is a decent amount of free disk space as you will
>>> shuffle things around just like in that 15 pieces game.
>>>
>>> Assuming / is the first (or second) partition on a disk:
>>>
>>> Measure how much data is on the file system.
>>> Measure how much data is on the /usr file system.
>>> Move partitions after / on the disk out of the way creating enough
>>> free space to contain current / and /usr.
>>> Enlarge / partition, enlarge the file system on it, copy contents
>>> of /usr there.
>>> Arrange the rest of your disk the way you want it (either with or
>>> without LVM, both are easy enough to do).
>>> Move the rest of your data back to it's final destination.
>>> Delete any last remnants of the old /usr partition.
>>>
>>> And all your worries about initramfs will go away. Trust me (no, not
>>> because I sell used cars, but because I do this for a living and
>>> have done it several times)
>>>
>>
>>
>> Right now, I doubt my current / partition can hold all the /usr stuff.
>> It would require a complete undoing then redoing, like you just laid
>> out.  I have done this before but I would like to only have to do it
>> once and be done.  That is why I want to use LVM for everything but /
>> but if I could get this to work right, I wouldn't mind having / on LVM
>> too.
>
> / on LVM isn't all that useful, simply because it's size doesn't change
> much and there's no real need to grow it. It's not like /var.
>
> Binary distros put LVm on / not because it's a good idea but because
> they like to have consistency. You don't need that because you know
> what you built and it doesn't need to be supported by a corporate
> employee far away.
>
> You are worrying yourself needlessly about this init thing.
>
> Just take some small measures to ensure that it will never be a factor.
>
>

So throw out my plans and just do it their way?  In that case, I may as
well use Fedora since it sort of started there.  Maybe that is what they
wanted and planned.  Screw everyone using a source based distro and they
will just come use ours.  This is starting to make me paranoid now.  ROFL

Dale

:-)  :-)


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