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From: "Benjamen R. Meyer" <bm_witness@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Which arch do I have ?
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 19:44:58
Message-Id: 47B199BE.7060305@yahoo.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Which arch do I have ? by Wael Nasreddine
1 Wael Nasreddine wrote:
2 > On Mon, Feb 11, 2008 at 10:31:30PM -0500, "Benjamen R. Meyer" <bm_witness@×××××.com> wrote:
3 >
4 >> As you have an Intel Core Duo, you should have the EMT64E version -
5 >> Intel's version of the AMD64 instruction set - thus x86-64 compatible.
6 >
7 >> Best place to check is Intel's website - here's what I found:
8 >
9 >> http://processorfinder.intel.com/details.aspx?sspec=sl9dv
10 >> http://developer.intel.com/design/mobile/core/duodocumentation.htm
11 >
12 >> With EMT64E, you will be able to compile for 64-bit mode using the
13 >> x86-64 builds. (You can only use Intel64 if you have the Itanium procs
14 >> if memory serves.)
15 >
16 >> However, unless you specifically install the x86-64/AMD64/64-bit
17 >> version, you will have a 32-bit x86 environment and kernel. You can
18 >> upgrade if you like...see other threads for that info.
19 >
20 >> HTH,
21 >
22 >> Ben
23 >
24 > Let's say this processor supports 64 bits, what whould I gain from
25 > migrating to x86_64 I mean would it be faster??? I've never
26 > owned/worked on a 64bit machine before so excuse my lack of knowledge
27 > :)
28
29 The primary advantage is larger memory space, and more native use of the
30 entire processor. I'm running it b/c I want to be - not b/c I need the
31 memory space, I'm not pushing 4GB for Physical RAM which is primarily
32 what it is about.
33
34 From my understanding, you won't gain much if any in speed. The
35 processor is still the same clock rate. 64-bit programs may (not sure,
36 someone verify?) be bigger as the opcodes are larger.
37
38 You can run any of the following configs:
39 1) pure 32-bit
40 2) pure 64-bit
41 3) mixed 32-64 bit (multi-lib)
42
43 #3 will be the largest install as you have a lot of duplications since
44 you are hosting both a 32-bit and 64-bit environment. However, with #2
45 you might not get a lot of programs since there are quite a few that
46 have not been fully ported to 64-bit modes. You're running #1 now.
47
48 So not much is gained for now.
49
50 Ben
51
52 >> Wael Nasreddine wrote:
53 >>> Hello,
54 >
55 >>> It's been like 6 months I'm using the arch i686, but today I saw on this
56 >>> page[1] something that confused me, saying that I have an x86_64 arch I have a
57 >>> Toshiba A135-S4427 with Intel dual core 1.73Ghz here's the output of
58 >>> /proc/cpuinfo
59 >
60 >>> ---- CUT
61 >>> processor : 0
62 >>> vendor_id : GenuineIntel
63 >>> cpu family : 6
64 >>> model : 14
65 >>> model name : Genuine Intel(R) CPU T2250 @ 1.73GHz
66 >>> stepping : 8
67 >>> cpu MHz : 800.000
68 >>> cache size : 2048 KB
69 >>> physical id : 0
70 >>> siblings : 2
71 >>> core id : 0
72 >>> cpu cores : 2
73 >>> fdiv_bug : no
74 >>> hlt_bug : no
75 >>> f00f_bug : no
76 >>> coma_bug : no
77 >>> fpu : yes
78 >>> fpu_exception : yes
79 >>> cpuid level : 10
80 >>> wp : yes
81 >>> flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe constant_tsc arch_perfmon bts pni monitor est tm2 xtpr
82 >>> bogomips : 3460.63
83 >>> clflush size : 64
84 >
85 >>> processor : 1
86 >>> vendor_id : GenuineIntel
87 >>> cpu family : 6
88 >>> model : 14
89 >>> model name : Genuine Intel(R) CPU T2250 @ 1.73GHz
90 >>> stepping : 8
91 >>> cpu MHz : 800.000
92 >>> cache size : 2048 KB
93 >>> physical id : 0
94 >>> siblings : 2
95 >>> core id : 1
96 >>> cpu cores : 2
97 >>> fdiv_bug : no
98 >>> hlt_bug : no
99 >>> f00f_bug : no
100 >>> coma_bug : no
101 >>> fpu : yes
102 >>> fpu_exception : yes
103 >>> cpuid level : 10
104 >>> wp : yes
105 >>> flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe constant_tsc arch_perfmon bts pni monitor est tm2 xtpr
106 >>> bogomips : 3457.55
107 >>> clflush size : 64
108 >>> ---- CUT
109 >
110 >>> So which arch do I really have??
111 >
112 >>> [1]: http://docs.fedoraproject.org/install-guide/f8/en_US/sn-which-arch.html
113 >
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