Re: [gentoo-user] Re: going from systemd to udev

[Canek Peláez Valdés]

On Feb 4, 2014 7:30 PM, "Poncho" <poncho@××××××.ch> wrote:
>
> On 05.02.2014 01:10, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> > On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 5:27 PM, walt <w41ter@×××××.com> wrote:
> >> On 02/04/2014 02:29 PM, gottlieb@×××.edu wrote:
> >>> On Tue, Feb 04 2014, Daniel Campbell wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On 02/04/2014 01:58 PM, Joseph wrote:
> >>>>> Is it possible to go from "systemd" to "udev"?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I don't like the way systemd works.  I have a problem with mounting
USB
> >>>>> sick (it mounts as root:root) and I can not even change the
permission.
> >>>>> I am receiving Hylafax fax transmission reports (email) on all
incoming
> >>>>> faxes and now these emails are empty.
> >>>>> It all start happening after switching to systemd :-(
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> systemd and udev are part of the same project, so I believe what you
> >>>> meant was switching from systemd to OpenRC. I've not made such a
switch,
> >>>> but if you remember the steps you took, you can generally just
reverse
> >>>> them. That is, emerge openrc again, change the kernel line in GRUB to
> >>>> point to regular init instead of systemd's init, reboot, and things
> >>>> *should* fall into place.
> >>>>
> >>>> USB drives mounting as root sounds like a udev thing rather than a
> >>>> systemd thing, and switching to OpenRC for your init won't fix it
afaik.
> >>>> For the devices that you need this behavior for, it might be worth
> >>>> looking into writing some udev rules. You can get a start by
consulting
> >>>> `lsusb` output and Googling for 'udev rules' to get a wide variety of
> >>>> guides for writing udev rules. Despite the recent changes to udev by
the
> >>>> systemd team, udev still functions mostly the same and most guides
will
> >>>> be accurate.
> >>>>
> >>>> I hope this helps!
> >>>>
> >>>> ~Daniel
> >>>
> >>> There are changes in USE.   -systemd +consolekit
> >>> If you switched to a systemd profile, switch back.
> >>
> >> I'm sure that unsetting the consolekit useflag (when I switched to
systemd)
> >> resulted in some non-MicroSoft behavior, e.g. I now need to
authenticate as
> >> root when plugging or ejecting a USB stick, and yet again when I
poweroff or
> >> reboot the machine
> >
> > This does not happen with GNOME 3. At all. The only time I'm asked for
> > my root password is when I add or remove a printer, and
> > app-admin/system-config-printer-gnome has been doing this since the
> > very beginning. I'm still hoping that someone fix that thing.
> >
> >> Being the only user of this machine, I could work up some outrage over
this
> >> new PITA -- but I've decided not to be outraged.  I pretend to be a
sysadmin
> >> and imagine how I would feel if an arbitrary user demanded the ability
to
> >> plug any arbitrary USB stick into his corporate workstation.
> >>
> >> Well, I'm not a corporate sysadmin, and never will be, but I think I'd
be
> >> reluctant to let him do it.
> >>
> >> Any official sysadmins out there have an infallible opinion to offer?
> >
> > With GNOME+systemd (and therefore, logind), the seat0 user gets
> > ownership of all removable devices (except printers, see above), and
> > the hardware buttons (poweroff, reset, suspend, etc.) No root password
> > asked. Ever.
> >
> > You can see your seat with loginctl; if your seat is not seat0, that's
> > why your password is being asked. If it's seat0, then something else
> > is going on. Do you have pam_systemd.so enabled in /etc/pam.d?
> >
> > Regards.
> >
>
> Concerning the printer permissions, see
> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=466338

Thanks, I will take a look.

Regards.