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From: Grant Edwards <grant.b.edwards@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: ~amd64 compatibility with modern cpus
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 01:57:43
Message-Id: kaj9mg$tqf$1@ger.gmane.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] ~amd64 compatibility with modern cpus by felix@crowfix.com
1 On 2012-12-14, felix@×××××××.com <felix@×××××××.com> wrote:
2 > On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 12:34:49PM -0600, Bruce Hill wrote:
3 >
4 >> Boot with SystemRescueCd and you can't get to a prompt?
5 >
6 > Currently can't even boot -- it hangs wit a blank screen at the point
7 > grub or the rescue DVD would take over.
8 >
9 >> Yes, your southbridge chipset could just happened to have failed at
10 >> the same time; or it failed on the reboot; or USB and SATA are both
11 >> on the southbridge that failed so you lost both, basically.
12 >
13 > Then my natural naive question is, can this be readily replaced, or
14 > is it soldered in and/or obsolete? It is about 8 years old.
15
16 1) You probably can't get a replacement part. Parts like that have a
17 production lifetime of about 6 months. You _might_ be able to find
18 one on the secondary market -- if you're prepared to buy them by
19 the tray-full. If you find them, they'll either be dirt cheap or
20 ridiculously expensive.
21
22 2) If you had a replacement part, it's probably a BGA part, and you
23 have to have special equipment (and/or a _lot_ of luck with a
24 heat-gun) to get the old part off and the new part on without
25 destroying the board or surrounding parts. Your best bet would be
26 to take it to a board house that does prototype builds and have
27 them replace it. But, unless you're a regular customer, they're
28 going to charge you so much for the job that you could probably buy
29 a half-dozen replacement motherboards along with CPUs and RAM to go
30 with them [if there's no hope of real business, they'll probably
31 just say 'no' unless they're bored and feel like doing you a
32 favor].
33
34 The only practical thing to do is replace the motherboard. You might
35 be able to find an old one on eBay that will accept the same CPU and
36 RAM, but 8 years is a _long_ time...
37
38 --
39 Grant