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From: Christopher Robinson <chrisrobinson@××××××××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] New Install
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2016 20:28:19
Message-Id: 1540740994.4100933.1474748884633@mail.yahoo.com
1 Dale,
2
3 Your assumption that I missed a section is entirely offbase and does not respond to
4 my original question. I could say that you are missing the point of what I asked.
5 For those who have had helpful suggestions I give thanks.
6
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8
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10 On Sat, 9/24/16, Dale <rdalek1967@×××××.com> wrote:
11
12 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] New Install
13 To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
14 Date: Saturday, September 24, 2016, 4:17 PM
15
16 Again, top posting to
17 follow his lead.
18
19 It's
20 not a fight.  It's just called being prepared. 
21 Missing a section
22 isn't going to give
23 you a proper install.  It's one reason I always
24 recommend a person read the docs several
25 times.  The reason for that, if
26 something
27 doesn't seem right, you will more than likely notice it
28 and go
29 back and figure out what was
30 missed.  The fact that I don't see a
31 all-in-one page guide isn't helping you
32 any.  If it was on one page,
33 even as a
34 option for those who don't like it, then you likely
35 wouldn't
36 have missed a section.  Just
37 start at the top and work your way down.
38 Maybe after this, someone will see the need for
39 at least some of us to
40 have it all in one
41 long page.  Maybe Rich can whisper in someone's
42 ear.   I guess printing it and
43 putting it in order would work but that
44 means a lot of typing when a lot of times, a
45 copy and paste will be
46 easier.
47
48 Thing is, it's hard to
49 tell what was wrong because no one knew you
50 missed a section, I suspect Neil did sort of
51 figure that to be the case
52 tho which is why
53 he replied with what he did.  What we do know, if you
54 follow the guide, you should get a bootable
55 system.  It may not be 100%
56 perfect but it
57 should boot at least.  Gentoo has some excellent docs,
58 especially the install part.  Unless you have
59 some pretty odd hardware,
60 it should work.
61
62
63 One thing I learned the
64 hard way.  Pretty much no matter what you may
65 mess up, you can chroot in and go back and fix
66 it. Just boot using
67 whatever media you
68 selected, follow the mount and chroot section and
69 then correct whatever is wrong.  You do NOT
70 have to start from scratch
71 most of the
72 time.  You'd have to have made a boo boo in the very
73 early
74 stages to end up doing that.
75
76 I'm just hoping you can
77 fix this easily and finish your install.  :-)
78
79 Dale
80
81 :-)  :-)
82
83
84 Christopher Robinson wrote:
85 > I don't really want to get into a
86 fight, but some of the replies-not Rich's- are
87 missing
88 > the point I am raising. To then
89 disparage me is unworthy for a support list.
90 >
91 --------------------------------------------
92 > On Sat, 9/24/16, Dale <rdalek1967@×××××.com>
93 wrote:
94 >
95 >  Subject:
96 Re: [gentoo-user] New Install
97 >  To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
98 >  Date: Saturday, September 24, 2016, 3:44
99 PM
100
101 >  Rich
102 Freeman wrote:
103 >  > On Sat, Sep 24,
104 2016 at 11:35 AM, Dale
105 >  <rdalek1967@×××××.com>
106 >  wrote:
107 >  >>
108 Actually, he is correct.
109 >  >
110 Actually, he isn't, which is hard to
111 >  demonstrate since everybody is
112 top-posting.
113
114
115 Actually he is and your reply
116
117 supports that point.  Also, I top posted
118 >  because he did and I posted that
119 reasoning.
120 >  I'm sure he will get
121 around
122 >  to bottom
123 >  posting when he gets his install done. 
124 Who knows what he
125 >  is
126 >  using at the moment.
127 >  >
128 >  >> On
129 Saturday,
130 >  September 24, 2016 9:47 AM,
131 Neil Bothwick <neil@××××××××××.uk>
132 >  >> wrote:
133
134 >>
135 >  >> You need to read
136 chapter 1 of the
137 >  Gentoo handbook from
138 start to finish,
139 >  >> then read
140 it again.
141 >  > The handbook
142 doesn't have chapters.
143 >  The step
144 that was missed was well
145 >  > into
146 >  the process.
147
148 >
149
150 >  If he
151 was reading and following the install
152
153 guide, how did he do that
154 >  when he
155 missed a
156 >  whole section?  Obviously,
157 he wasn't following it
158 >  since
159 >  he missed the section.  When I did
160 my
161 >  first install well over a
162 decade
163 >  ago, I read
164 >  that thing at least three of four times
165 to even see if I
166 >  wanted to try
167 Gentoo.  During my last install
168 >  on
169 my new rig a few years
170 >  ago, I read
171 it
172 >  twice even tho it was mostly the
173 same.  Installing
174 >  Gentoo
175 >  isn't easy but it is very hard
176 >  when you are not familiar enough with
177 the
178 >  process to even realize you
179 missed a whole
180 >  section.  If you
181 follow the
182 >  guide and
183 >  don't miss anything, it should
184 work.  The only major
185 >  set back
186 >  you can have is a badly configured
187 >  kernel that won't complete the
188 boot
189 >  process.  I might add, this is
190 also why I
191 >  prefer a one page guide.
192
193 >  Start at the top
194 >  and work your way to the bottom.  Very
195 little chance of
196 >  missing anything
197 then.
198
199 >  Now
200 that he knows he missed a section, maybe he
201 >  can chroot into it, do
202 >  that section and
203
204 finish the install.  That is unless his mobo blows out.
205 >  :/
206
207 >  Dale
208
209 >  :-)  :-)
210
211
212 >
213 >

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