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From: james <garftd@×××××××.net>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Local mail server
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2020 19:39:49
Message-Id: c9554058-d044-2686-ea27-5ca2e06bac7e@verizon.net
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Local mail server by Grant Taylor
1 On 7/31/20 12:38 PM, Grant Taylor wrote:
2 > On 7/30/20 3:05 AM, antlists wrote:
3 >> From what little I understand, IPv6 *enforces* CIDR.
4 >
5 > Are you talking about the lack of defined classes of network; A, B, C,
6 > D, E?? Or are you talking about hierarchical routing?
7 >
8 > There is no concept of a class of network in IPv6.
9 >
10 > Hierarchical routing is a laudable goal, but it failed 15-20 years ago.
11 >
12 >> Each customer is then given one of these 64-bit address spaces for
13 >> their local network. So routing tables suddenly become extremely
14 >> simple - eactly the way IPv4 was intended to be.
15 >
16 > Except that things didn't work out that way.
17 >
18 > Provider Independent addresses, multi-homing, and redundant routes mean
19 > that hierarchical routing failed 15-20 years ago.
20 >
21 > Many providers try to address things so that hierarchical routing is a
22 > thing within their network.? But the reality of inter-networking between
23 > providers means that things aren't as neat and tidy as this on the
24 > Internet.
25 >
26 >> This may then mean that dynDNS is part of (needs to be) the IPv6 spec,
27 >> because every time a client roams between networks, its IPv6 address
28 >> HAS to change.
29 >
30 > Nope.
31 >
32 > It's entirely possible to have clients roam between IPv6 (and IPv4)
33 > networks without (one of) it's address(es) changing.? Mobile IP.? VPNs.
34 > Tunnels.? BGP....
35 >
36 > Sure, the connection to the network changes as it moves from network to
37 > network.? But this doesn't mean that the actual IP address that's used
38 > by the system to communicate with the world changes.
39 >
40 > Take a look at IPv6 Provider Delegation.? At least as Comcast does it,
41 > means that you only have a link-local IPv6 address on the outside and a
42 > /56 on the inside of a network.? The world sees the globally routed IPv6
43 > network on the inside and doesn't give 2? what the outside link-net IPv6
44 > address is.? Comcast routes the /56 they delegate to you via the
45 > non-globally-routed IPv6 link-net IPv6 address.
46 >
47 > There are multiple ways to keep the same IP while changing the
48 > connecting link.
49
50 I'd like to start with a basic list/brief description of these, please?
51
52 James

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