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From: Rene Rasmussen <gentoo@××××××××××.dk>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] How to prevent a dns amplification attack
Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2013 14:53:46
Message-Id: 20130330155329.5fc7aa9b@Marcher
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] How to prevent a dns amplification attack by "Norman Rieß"
1 On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 13:06:16 +0100
2 Norman Rieß <norman@×××××××××.org> wrote:
3
4 >
5 > Am 29.03.2013 um 23:34 schrieb Paul Hartman
6 > <paul.hartman+gentoo@×××××.com>:
7 >
8 > > On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 7:49 PM, Peter Humphrey
9 > > <peter@××××××××××××××.org> wrote:
10 > >> On Thursday 28 March 2013 20:53:49 Paul Hartman wrote:
11 > >>
12 > >>> In my case, my ISP's DNS servers are slow (several seconds to
13 > >>> reply), fail randomly when they should resolve, return an IP
14 > >>> (which goes to their ad-laden "helper" website if you are using a
15 > >>> web browser) when they should instead return nxdomain, and they
16 > >>> have openly admitted to selling customer DNS lookup history to
17 > >>> marketers for targeted advertising.
18 > >>
19 > >>
20 > >>
21 > >> That is just evil. Have you no alternative to this ISP?
22 > >
23 > > Not really.
24 > >
25 > > I have a 100 megabit connection through the cable company; my only
26 > > wired alternative is DSL (1.5 mbit for almost half the price I'm
27 > > paying for 100mbit). Cellular or satellite are not viable options
28 > > for me because of comparatively poor value, latency and miniscule
29 > > data usage caps.
30 >
31 > > […]
32 > >
33 > > It is no longer legal for local governments to award monopolies, but
34 > > the damage has been done. What we have is essentially the cable TV
35 > > infrastructure that was laid out during the decade when local cable
36 > > monopolies were legal, and the cost of entry for a new player into
37 > > the market now is so high that nobody ever bothers. End result for
38 > > consumers is a lack of choice. There are some places where
39 > > competition exists, but those places are pretty rare, in my
40 > > experience.
41 > >
42 > > There are some other possible alternatives to cable internet and
43 > > DSL, such as municipal wifi, mesh networks, powerline and FTTx, but
44 > > none are available where I live.
45 > >
46 > > The service I receive from the cable company here is actually
47 > > excellent, with the exception of the aforementioned DNS woes.
48 > >
49 > > Pretty much every major ISP in the US does DNS-hijacking and other
50 > > shenanigans, so there's no avoiding the evilness. I believe the
51 > > board members of major cable and telecom companies would sell their
52 > > own mothers into slavery if it meant a rise in share prices or a
53 > > larger bonus at the end of the year...
54 > >
55 >
56 > That is pretty much the same as what happened in Germany. The
57 > telephone network was build by the german postal service in the past
58 > and was run by the government. As we all know everything works better
59 > and cheaper when things are privatized, so the Deutsche Telekom was
60 > created and with it a semi monopoly over night. Regions not dense
61 > enough are not part of the developing plans of any of the companies.
62 > So if you are lucky like me, you are stuck with 16mbit DSL provided
63 > by one company rented by an other company. If people start to build
64 > their own network or a competitor reaches for a specific
65 > underdeveloped region, this region gets an upgrade like to DSL 3 Mbit
66 > or something like that, so the competitors draw of. If you are really
67 > lucky you live in a region which is really dense or a cable company
68 > provides you with internet, so you get 100mbit. But this is only a
69 > fraction of all people. If the government is confronted with this
70 > they say, the market will regulate that, which it does not. And if
71 > voices get too loud, the tell the companies to develop the
72 > underdeveloped regions, they shake hands on TV and nothing happens.
73 > And as Paul said, most ISP do DNS-hijacking and the like, which
74 > breaks things in incredible unexpected ways.
75 >
76 > So when i wrote this post to the mailing list and got answers like
77 > "unnecessary crap" and "why make it available for everyone" i thougt,
78 > this to be answers of some weirdos which should be ignored. Here you
79 > do not trust your ISP… you use the ISP which sucks less or the only
80 > one that gives you any internet at all. If you reach a certain level
81 > of knowledge, you change your DNS settings to free DNS servers and if
82 > you run a resolver you do it for the other poor souls as well. There
83 > are lists of unfiltered DNS Servers
84 > (http://www.ungefiltert-surfen.de/nameserver/de.html), which are
85 > checked regularly if they provide unfiltered answers an the like. And
86 > there are howtos for the average user on how to change the dns
87 > settings and to avoid your isp´s dns servers.
88 >
89 > Regards
90 > Norman
91 >
92 There is also the possibility to use opendns.com
93 I've been using them for years, and have not had any trouble. I started
94 using them when my ISP decided to block some sites. And their standard
95 service is free :)
96
97 Best regards,
98 Rene

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Re: [Bulk] Re: [gentoo-user] How to prevent a dns amplification attack Kevin Chadwick <ma1l1ists@××××××××.uk>