Gentoo Archives: gentoo-user

From: Dale <rdalek1967@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] New Install
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2016 20:55:07
Message-Id: 57E6E820.2040806@gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] New Install by Christopher Robinson
1 Well, you said you hadn't set up any users and their passwords. That is
2 part of the install process and is in the guide. You are told to set up
3 the root password in one section and to set up a user and its password
4 in another section. At the very least, you missed those two parts and
5 that isn't a assumption, it's based on what you posted. What else you
6 missed I'm not sure and most likely, no one else is either. Rich posted
7 that he thinks you missed a whole section which may or may not be
8 correct but we do know you missed at least a couple steps Given enough
9 information, someone may be able to figure it out tho.
10
11 Dale
12
13 :-) :-)
14
15
16
17 Christopher Robinson wrote:
18 > Dale,
19 >
20 > Your assumption that I missed a section is entirely offbase and does not respond to
21 > my original question. I could say that you are missing the point of what I asked.
22 > For those who have had helpful suggestions I give thanks.
23 >
24 >
25 >
26 > --------------------------------------------
27 > On Sat, 9/24/16, Dale <rdalek1967@×××××.com> wrote:
28 >
29 > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] New Install
30 > To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
31 > Date: Saturday, September 24, 2016, 4:17 PM
32 >
33 > Again, top posting to
34 > follow his lead.
35 >
36 > It's
37 > not a fight. It's just called being prepared.
38 > Missing a section
39 > isn't going to give
40 > you a proper install. It's one reason I always
41 > recommend a person read the docs several
42 > times. The reason for that, if
43 > something
44 > doesn't seem right, you will more than likely notice it
45 > and go
46 > back and figure out what was
47 > missed. The fact that I don't see a
48 > all-in-one page guide isn't helping you
49 > any. If it was on one page,
50 > even as a
51 > option for those who don't like it, then you likely
52 > wouldn't
53 > have missed a section. Just
54 > start at the top and work your way down.
55 > Maybe after this, someone will see the need for
56 > at least some of us to
57 > have it all in one
58 > long page. Maybe Rich can whisper in someone's
59 > ear. I guess printing it and
60 > putting it in order would work but that
61 > means a lot of typing when a lot of times, a
62 > copy and paste will be
63 > easier.
64 >
65 > Thing is, it's hard to
66 > tell what was wrong because no one knew you
67 > missed a section, I suspect Neil did sort of
68 > figure that to be the case
69 > tho which is why
70 > he replied with what he did. What we do know, if you
71 > follow the guide, you should get a bootable
72 > system. It may not be 100%
73 > perfect but it
74 > should boot at least. Gentoo has some excellent docs,
75 > especially the install part. Unless you have
76 > some pretty odd hardware,
77 > it should work.
78 >
79 >
80 > One thing I learned the
81 > hard way. Pretty much no matter what you may
82 > mess up, you can chroot in and go back and fix
83 > it. Just boot using
84 > whatever media you
85 > selected, follow the mount and chroot section and
86 > then correct whatever is wrong. You do NOT
87 > have to start from scratch
88 > most of the
89 > time. You'd have to have made a boo boo in the very
90 > early
91 > stages to end up doing that.
92 >
93 > I'm just hoping you can
94 > fix this easily and finish your install. :-)
95 >
96 > Dale
97 >
98 > :-) :-)
99 >
100 >
101 > Christopher Robinson wrote:
102 > > I don't really want to get into a
103 > fight, but some of the replies-not Rich's- are
104 > missing
105 > > the point I am raising. To then
106 > disparage me is unworthy for a support list.
107 > >
108 > --------------------------------------------
109 > > On Sat, 9/24/16, Dale <rdalek1967@×××××.com>
110 > wrote:
111 > >
112 > > Subject:
113 > Re: [gentoo-user] New Install
114 > > To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
115 > > Date: Saturday, September 24, 2016, 3:44
116 > PM
117 > >
118 > > Rich
119 > Freeman wrote:
120 > > > On Sat, Sep 24,
121 > 2016 at 11:35 AM, Dale
122 > > <rdalek1967@×××××.com>
123 > > wrote:
124 > > >>
125 > Actually, he is correct.
126 > > >
127 > Actually, he isn't, which is hard to
128 > > demonstrate since everybody is
129 > top-posting.
130 > >
131 > >
132 > Actually he is and your reply
133 > >
134 > supports that point. Also, I top posted
135 > > because he did and I posted that
136 > reasoning.
137 > > I'm sure he will get
138 > around
139 > > to bottom
140 > > posting when he gets his install done.
141 > Who knows what he
142 > > is
143 > > using at the moment.
144 > > >
145 > > >> On
146 > Saturday,
147 > > September 24, 2016 9:47 AM,
148 > Neil Bothwick <neil@××××××××××.uk>
149 > > >> wrote:
150 > >
151 > >>
152 > > >> You need to read
153 > chapter 1 of the
154 > > Gentoo handbook from
155 > start to finish,
156 > > >> then read
157 > it again.
158 > > > The handbook
159 > doesn't have chapters.
160 > > The step
161 > that was missed was well
162 > > > into
163 > > the process.
164 > >
165 > >
166 > >
167 > > If he
168 > was reading and following the install
169 > >
170 > guide, how did he do that
171 > > when he
172 > missed a
173 > > whole section? Obviously,
174 > he wasn't following it
175 > > since
176 > > he missed the section. When I did
177 > my
178 > > first install well over a
179 > decade
180 > > ago, I read
181 > > that thing at least three of four times
182 > to even see if I
183 > > wanted to try
184 > Gentoo. During my last install
185 > > on
186 > my new rig a few years
187 > > ago, I read
188 > it
189 > > twice even tho it was mostly the
190 > same. Installing
191 > > Gentoo
192 > > isn't easy but it is very hard
193 > > when you are not familiar enough with
194 > the
195 > > process to even realize you
196 > missed a whole
197 > > section. If you
198 > follow the
199 > > guide and
200 > > don't miss anything, it should
201 > work. The only major
202 > > set back
203 > > you can have is a badly configured
204 > > kernel that won't complete the
205 > boot
206 > > process. I might add, this is
207 > also why I
208 > > prefer a one page guide.
209 >
210 > > Start at the top
211 > > and work your way to the bottom. Very
212 > little chance of
213 > > missing anything
214 > then.
215 > >
216 > > Now
217 > that he knows he missed a section, maybe he
218 > > can chroot into it, do
219 > > that section and
220 > >
221 > finish the install. That is unless his mobo blows out.
222 > > :/
223 > >
224 > > Dale
225 > >
226 > > :-) :-)
227 > >
228 > >
229 > >
230 > >
231 >
232 >
233 >
234 >
235 >

Replies

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Re: [gentoo-user] New Install "J. Roeleveld" <joost@××××××××.org>
Re: [gentoo-user] New Install Christopher Robinson <chrisrobinson@××××××××××.com>