Gentoo Archives: gentoo-user

From: Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] SSD recmmendation / input
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2014 14:05:11
Message-Id: 54008848.6020004@gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] SSD recmmendation / input by Joseph
1 On 29/08/2014 15:28, Joseph wrote:
2 > Thank you for the input.
3 > I've decided to try SSD:
4 > Crucial MX100 512GB SATA 6Gb/s 2.5
5 >
6 > It seem to have a good review
7 > I have a Poly-ITX 945GC3 an ATOM-330 how to check if this disk will be
8 > compatible with this motherboard?
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13 I have to ask: how much exactly do you really know about computers?
14 Because most of your questions lead me to believe not very much, and you
15 ask folks here to do your thinking for you.
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18 Now go onto TheGoogle(tm), find the data sheet for your motherboard and
19 see if it supports SATA running at that speed.
20
21 Why should we do your google searches for you mean you can just as
22 easily do them yourself?
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27 >
28 > The unit run asterik, hylafax and VM (VirtualBox) 7/24
29 >
30 > --
31 > Joseph
32 >
33 >
34 > On 08/29/14 08:58, J. Roeleveld wrote:
35 >> On Thursday, August 28, 2014 10:54:25 PM Joseph wrote:
36 >>> No, I wouldn't get 1TB SSD too expensive but something like 300GB I
37 >>> might
38 >>> consider it. Are they worth the investment? What brand do you have
39 >>> and how
40 >>> long?
41 >>
42 >> Please do NOT top-post.
43 >>
44 >>
45 >> Currently, from what I found out, good brands are:
46 >> Intel, Samsung and Crucial.
47 >>
48 >> Do check on how they perform though, for my usage (Extensive use of
49 >> VMs), the
50 >> Samsung EVOs were not suitable as the performance can drop with large
51 >> writes.
52 >> (doesn't help when taking a full snapshot, eg. with memory-dump, of a
53 >> VM with
54 >> a lot of memory)
55 >>
56 >> But for most people, the EVOs are good.
57 >> The Samsung Pro does not have this, but costs more.
58 >>
59 >> The Crucial has, according to some reviews, a cleaner shutdown where any
60 >> outstanding writes during shutdown are actually committed to disk. I
61 >> am not
62 >> convinced I will ever notice it either way though.
63 >>
64 >> Intel has good reviews and good performance.
65 >>
66 >> For any model you are considering, check the reviews online as the
67 >> technology
68 >> behind SSDs is still changing and the firmware and chips keep changing as
69 >> well. A good brand now, might be a bad one tomorrow.
70 >>
71 >> For reference, I use the following in my laptop:
72 >>
73 >> # smartctl -a /dev/sda | grep "Device Model"
74 >> Device Model: INTEL SSDMCEAC120B3
75 >> # smartctl -a /dev/sdb | grep "Device Model"
76 >> Device Model: Crucial_CT1024M550SSD1
77 >>
78 >> --
79 >> Joost
80 >>
81 >>> --
82 >>> Joseph
83 >>>
84 >>> On 08/29/14 06:11, Alan McKinnon wrote:
85 >>> >On 29/08/2014 00:56, Joseph wrote:
86 >>> >> So there seems to be a pattern :-/
87 >>> >> How about SSD they are not that much more? Will it withstand Gentoo
88 >>> >> compilations :-) ?
89 >>> >
90 >>> >No. There is not a pattern. Two guys used drives for 5 years and then
91 >>> >they failed.
92 >>> >
93 >>> >5 years? Wow. That's double what you can reasonably expect, you got
94 >>> good
95 >>> >service.
96 >>> >
97 >>> >SSDs are much more expensive than spinning disks, 1TB will cost a
98 >>> >fortune. But they work in Gentoo very well - I'm on my second and this
99 >>> >one is 256G, still runs as fast as the day I got it.
100 >>> >
101 >>> >> --
102 >>> >> Joseph
103 >>> >>
104 >>> >> On 08/28/14 22:46, Mick wrote:
105 >>> >>> On Thursday 28 Aug 2014 21:45:10 Joseph wrote:
106 >>> >>>> I need to select 500GB or 1TB infernal 2.5in drive, any
107 >>> recommendation
108 >>> >>>> (reliability) of the brand. My current WD 320GB fail after 5-years.
109 >>> >>>
110 >>> >>> Interesting ... mine also failed catastrophically a couple of months
111 >>> >>> ago after
112 >>> >>> around 5 years of continuous use.
113 >>> >>>
114 >>> >>> Which reminds me to run a backup on my Seagate:
115 >>> >>>
116 >>> >>> Model Family: Seagate Momentus 7200.4
117 >>> >>> Device Model: ST9500420ASG
118 >>> >>>
119 >>> >>> I'm not sure how much anecdotal reports on reliable drives
120 >>> actually hold
121 >>> >>> water, unless we're talking about an epidemic of failures like I
122 >>> seem to
123 >>> >>> recall Dell's Seagate drives experienced a few years ago.
124 >>> >>>
125 >>> >>> --
126 >>> >>> Regards,
127 >>> >>> Mick
128 >
129 >
130 >
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133 --
134 Alan McKinnon
135 alan.mckinnon@×××××.com