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On 05/06/14 14:11, Rich Freeman wrote: |
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> On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 2:34 AM, Greg Woodbury <redwolfe@×××××.com> wrote: |
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>> Unfortunately, the advocates and implementers made some major political |
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>> choices when they (apparently deliberately) chose to put the systemd |
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>> stuff in /usr/lib instead of /lib. It was pointed out that this |
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>> abrogated certain parts of the FHS, forced those who would like to adopt |
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>> it to *not* being able to continue using their machines they way they |
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>> wished to (I.e. they had to choose between several potentially major |
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>> changes to do so -- don't have a separate /usr or be forced to use a |
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>> kernel initrd/initramfs method in order to do so.) |
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> My understanding is that the systemd developers intend for systemd to |
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> not be installed in /usr unless /lib and so on are symlinks to their |
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> counterparts in /usr (ie the /usr-merge is completed). |
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Correct. As in, if you git clone system repository, and run ./autogen.sh |
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on it, |
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it will recommend options that will put systemd to /, not /usr |
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And multiple systemd upstream developers think it's an bad idea to install |
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systemd to /usr if the /usr-merge is not complete, Kay, Lennart, and others |
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have said it out loud on ML and #systemd, Freenode |
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So, it's entirely Gentoo systemd maintainers decision to install into /usr |
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even without the /usr-merge |
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> I think the reason so much stuff is migrating to /usr is the sense |
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> that keeping things split up is becoming more hassle than it is worth |
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> due to all the vertical integration. If you have a bluetooth keyboard |
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> then you're going to be hard-pressed to use your system without /usr |
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> mounted. That is the standard example, but the sense is that this is |
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> the way the wind is blowing. Virtually every distro out there uses an |
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> initramfs anyway - we're a bit of an aberration in that it seems that |
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> using an initramfs is rare among Gentoo users. |
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> Just look at an initramfs as the new root filesystem. There really |
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> isn't anything you could do with a shell without /usr mounted that you |
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> can't do with a shell in an initramfs. |
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That'd be accurate. |
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