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From: Pandu Poluan <pandu@××××××.info>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Suspend to RAM caused crashes
Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2011 11:59:49
Message-Id: CAA2qdGVApdu1auq+fL0w4BJq+PGA1J-fD3fMz_bORnk4gC+o2w@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Suspend to RAM caused crashes by Mick
1 (sorry for top-posting)
2
3 Do the 1 GB pieces have the same timing values as the 0.5 GB pieces?
4
5 Try slowing down the memory timing parameters in BIOS (should look
6 like 8-5-3-3 or something like that; larger numbers are slower).
7
8 Rgds,
9
10
11 On 2011-08-21, Mick <michaelkintzios@×××××.com> wrote:
12 > On Sunday 21 Aug 2011 12:19:40 Francesco Talamona wrote:
13 >> On Sunday 21 August 2011, Mick wrote:
14 >> > Here's a strange one:
15 >> >
16 >> > Suspending a Pentium4 32bit machine used to work a treat. For years.
17 >> >
18 >> > Then around 9 months ago or so, I can't recall exactly, it started
19 >> >
20 >> > causing crashes. What happens is that the monitor will go to sleep
21 >> > and the disk will stop immediately, but the machine continues to run
22 >> > and run and run ...
23 >> >
24 >> > At that point I have lost access to the keyboard and the monitor does
25 >> > not wake up if I move the mouse. Using ssh to connect shows that
26 >> > the machine is off the network, so I assume that the NIC is also
27 >> > suspended. The only way to recover is to pull the plug. :-(
28 >> >
29 >> > Unfortunately, mysql has left a lock file behind, so it won't start
30 >> > at reboot until I remove the lockfile.
31 >> >
32 >> > Now, here's the strange thing about all this. I have 4 RAM modules,
33 >> > 2x1G and 2x500M. Following the manual I have installed them in this
34 >> > order:
35 >> >
36 >> > slot 1 - 1G,
37 >> > slot 2 - 0.5G,
38 >> > slot 3 - 1G,
39 >> > slot 4 - 0.5G
40 >> >
41 >> > If I try to suspend the machine soon after boot, when it is still
42 >> > using low amounts of memory, the machine will suspend each time
43 >> > without fail (just like it used to do in the past).
44 >> >
45 >> > If I wait until the machine is using more than 1G or so, then it will
46 >> > always crash.
47 >> >
48 >> > I'm running memtest86+ just in case, but 3 passes and no errors are
49 >> > shown so far. Suspend to RAM is really a time saver on this machine
50 >> > and was being used at least 4-5 times a day. Now the box is running
51 >> > non-stop 16 hours a day or more, which is wasteful (although with
52 >> > the Pentium4 I'm saving on central heating bills!) Any ideas what I
53 >> > can look into to resolve this?
54 >>
55 >> I'm using KDE to suspend my machine, for some reason it recently stopped
56 >> working, but it was only with kernel 3.0.1
57 >>
58 >> I was able to see an error quickly changing to tty12 where the console
59 >> is used to echo /var/log/messages after clicking "sleep" button in KDE
60 >>
61 >> Aug 15 07:42:31 aemaeth polkitd(authority=local): Registered
62 >> Authentication Agent for unix-
63 >> session:/org/freedesktop/ConsoleKit/Session1 (system bus name :1.29
64 >> [/usr/lib64/kde4/libexec/polkit-kde-authentication-agent-1], object path
65 >> /org/kde/PolicyKit1/AuthenticationAgent, locale en_US.UTF-8)
66 >> Aug 15 07:42:35 aemaeth dbus[3247]: [system] Rejected send message, 2
67 >> matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.33" (uid=501 pid=4883
68 >> comm="nautilus --sm-client-id 10c6d9d5610001307993940000")
69 >> interface="org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties" member="GetAll" error
70 >> name="(unset)" requested_reply="0" destination=":1.1" (uid=0 pid=3297
71 >> comm="/usr/sbin/console-kit-daemon ")
72 >>
73 >> The machine locked itself shortly after that error, but the log was
74 >> there.
75 >>
76 >> My problem is now gone with kernel 3.0.3. I wish yours it's not a RAM
77 >> issue, it could be tricky to spot, because memtest is not putting any
78 >> load to the machine, so it's very useful when it reports error, but when
79 >> it doesn't you can't be sure if RAM modules are in good health.
80 >> From my experience the stress load of compiling large packages is more
81 >> likely to evidence RAM faults than memtest itself.
82 >
83 > No problem with big package emerges, or running demanding applications like
84 > gimp, inkscape and firefox, chrome and opera with umpteen tabs open, plus
85 > Windows7 running on virtualbox on occasion. When all 3G is needed the
86 > machine
87 > will swap happily.
88 >
89 > I would readily say that I am certain this is not a memory problem except
90 > ...
91 > the 2x1G RAM modules are not the same make as the 2x500M modules. In the
92 > past
93 > I have had MoBos which were very particular on choice of memory modules and
94 > mismatching them led to all sort of obscure crashes (e.g. when swapping was
95 > starting).
96 > --
97 > Regards,
98 > Mick
99 >
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104 Pandu E Poluan - IT Optimizer
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