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From: Mick <michaelkintzios@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Coming up with a password that is very strong.
Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2019 11:17:33
Message-Id: 12204550.2pT58cCFQF@dell_xps
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Coming up with a password that is very strong. by Neil Bothwick
1 On Monday, 4 February 2019 10:37:03 GMT Neil Bothwick wrote:
2 > On Mon, 04 Feb 2019 10:24:27 +0000, Peter Humphrey wrote:
3 > > > How do you, especially those who admin systems that are always being
4 > > > hacked at, generate strong passwords that meet the above? I've
5 > > > googled and found some ideas but if I use the same method, well, how
6 > > > many others are using that same method, if you know what I
7 > > > mean. ;-) Just looking for ideas.
8 > >
9 > > You could use a password generator to keep creating random passwords
10 > > until it comes up with something you like the look of, then learn it by
11 > > rote. I did that some time ago - it must be about time I did it again
12 > > to make another one.
13 >
14 > https://xkcd.com/936/
15
16 Not strictly true ... the crackers would probably use rainbow tables attacks
17 first. Also, it isn't fair to compare an 11 character passwd against a 25
18 character passwd. For the *same* number of characters used in any given
19 passwd, a random lower/upper/numerical/symbol passwd will provide an
20 exponentially higher degree of difficulty in cracking it with brute force,
21 than one which uses only lower case dictionary words. Anyway, these days many
22 attacks are focused on OS or hardware vulnerabilities which have been baked in
23 by design, rather than brute force attacks.
24
25 Any financial company worth their salt are employing 2-factor authentication
26 and account lockups to stop brute forcing of users credentials. So, guarding
27 against your own OS compromise is more important than individual website
28 credentials.
29
30 You will be surprised how many people are still using passwds like:
31
32 password
33 password1
34 arsenal
35 manchesterunited2018
36 fido
37
38 on websites which store their credit card details. O_O
39
40 You may want to take a look at app-admin/apg and to mitigate against your
41 CPU's lack of randomness use sys-apps/haveged. Combining multiple outputs of
42 apg should arrive at a passwd which is more secure than not.
43
44 --
45 Regards,
46 Mick

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[gentoo-user] Re: Coming up with a password that is very strong. Nikos Chantziaras <realnc@×××××.com>
Re: [gentoo-user] Coming up with a password that is very strong. Neil Bothwick <neil@××××××××××.uk>