Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [WAS: keyboard stops working] Recent kernels block the loading of non-GPL kernel modules

[Dale]

walt wrote:
> On Tue, 18 Aug 2015 15:49:16 -0500
> Dale <rdalek1967@×××××.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> I think there is two issues but you are addressing one of them it
>> seems.  The other issue happens when the kernel panics and it reboots
>> itself.  It doesn't complete the boot process.  The one you describe
>> could be it tho.  On that one, I don't have a GUI.  Since I use my
>> puter a lot, I usually just reboot to a known working kernel and deal
>> with it later.
>>
>> While I think I get the idea of what the kernel devs are doing.  I
>> also think they should let the users send the message.  The users can
>> start buying ATI or other video hardware and at some point, they will
>> either get their ducks in a row or lose sales.  In the meantime, the
>> users decide what software they want to use.
>>
>> I did some searching based on the config option you gave and I'm
>> unable to find a way to override this myself.  It doesn't seem to be
>> a setting I can put in make.conf or package.use etc either.  If this
>> is the case, I may wish Nvidia would switch to open source but it
>> sort of rubs me the wrong way that someone else is making the
>> decision and me having no way to exercise my decision to use it
>> anyway.   I don't care if Nvidia doesn't show its code as long as it
>> works and it isn't spying on me or blowing up my house here.
>>
>> If you have any info on how to override this, I'd be glad to see it.
>> Just a link or something would help.
> This is a bug for ati-drivers, but nvidia-drivers has exactly the same
> problem to solve.  Comments 7, 8, 9 sum it up pretty well:
>
> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=548118
>
>

I read through that long thing.  It seems the kernel folks are stirring
up a storm that makes the users have to jump through hoops.  Let me see
if I get this right.  The kernel devs don't want to allow a user to
install a driver that they don't approve of.  Those would include Nvidia
and ATI it would seem, at least.  So, since they don't like the drivers,
they make it so that users can't use them.  Which leaves users with two
options, three if you like to jump a lot.  Option one, don't upgrade
your kernel and use the older versions, lacking security fixes and all
that goes with it.  Option 2, do without a GUI since you don't have
video driver for your video card.  Option 3, force the drivers to build
and maybe even violate the law while doing it.  It seems based on one
post that you can't just change that code so that it will load like it
has before.  Well, at least not easily. 

Here's a clue.  Why doesn't the kernel devs let users decide what
drivers they are comfy with using?  If they don't like the drivers, then
make it so that users have to install their own just like we have for
ages but don't disable them or make them not load and work.  The kernel
devs can stop using the drivers they don't like and sit there in a
console with no GUI while the rest of us go on with life and using our
video drivers that we are happy with. 

Sounds to simple don't it?  LOL 

Dale

:-)  :-)