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Michael wrote: |
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> On Friday, 5 August 2022 21:45:25 BST Dale wrote: |
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>> Michael wrote: |
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>>> What kind of protection are you seeking - what is your threat model? |
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>> I'm mostly wanting it so people can't just look and see what I'm doing |
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>> or where I am, mostly my ISP. |
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> In this case 'people' and your ISP will see you are connecting to the remote |
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> VPN, but not what website you visit thereon. |
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> The website you visit will not see your real IP, but the exit IP of the VPN |
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> node. This may break some websites and streaming services who only allow |
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> connections from specific jurisdictions. |
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That may be the case but if it is a problem I run into, I can adjust |
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settings if needed. |
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>> I do a little torrenting and such too. |
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>> ;-) That said, even if I go to my bank's website which is https, it |
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>> will also go through a VPN which also encrypts the traffic. My bank is |
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>> secure as far as I know but having more protection added can't be a bad |
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>> thing. |
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> All connections to banks are encrypted end-to-end for decades now and the |
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> encryption has becoming stronger over the years. |
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That is likely true. I still remember Snowden tho. We don't know what |
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backdoors are in use even for bank encryption. Thing is, open source |
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tools are harder to fall into that trap since everyone can see what the |
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code is. If a backdoor is forced in, it will be known to a lot of |
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people and then that tool won't be used. It's sort of funny in a way, |
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they more Govts and others try to restrict things, the more tools there |
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is to get around it. From what I've read, most VPNs use open source |
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tools. Most even use the current best and would upgrade if needed. |
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That gives me some extra protection in the event my bank or any other |
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website falls behind on updating theirs. |
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Basically, I don't trust Govt with much of anything. If they say they |
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don't do something bad, you can pretty much bet they are doing exactly |
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that or even worse. |
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>> I'm torn between torguard and surfshark. I'm not sure where torguard is |
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>> located but surfshark is in the Netherlands I think. Outside US |
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>> jurisdiction and from what I've read, they never give info to anyone |
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>> about their customers traffic. |
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> Yeah, that's what they all say - their business model depends on it. State |
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> sponsored actors are likely to know what the need to know anyway, with or |
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> without the explicit VPN providers collaboration. ;-) |
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May be the case but I plan to try anyway. At least it won't be easy for |
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them. |
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>> I'm still researching torguard. Maybe |
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>> someone here knows where they are located??? |
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> I understand they are a US based provider in Florida: |
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> Vpnetworks, LLC |
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> 618 E South St |
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> Orlando, FL 32801 |
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> but they have VPN servers all over the globe. Some are virtual servers and |
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> are NOT physically located in the countries they claim. The fact it is |
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> located in the USA it means the authorities can request client list |
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> information. VPN providers in jurisdictions like BVI, Panama, or even |
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> Switzerland might stand a better chance. |
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> Anyway, this is a moot point. If a VPN provider protects your traffic from |
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> 'people', who protects your traffic from the ... VPN people?! LOL! |
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> I don't use VPNs, but the interwebs are buzzing with reviews and suggestions. |
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> If torrenting is a requirement, then associated forums and mailing lists would |
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> provide advice on what works best for your use case. |
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Well, that settles that then. I guess it will be Surfshark. Pretty |
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sure it is in the Netherlands but may be wrong on country. I just |
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recall it being outside US jurisdiction. I also read they have been |
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audited by independent people to ensure they have no logs even if asked. |
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Thanks for all the info. Yours to Tastytea. |
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Dale |
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:-) :-) |
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P. S. Anyone need some used AT&T DSL modems? I got a few. Some have |
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been updated with heat sinks on the chips which makes them run cooler. |
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I got several Westel black ones and a couple smaller gray Motorola |
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ones. I also have one that is a AT&T marked one. They need a home. |
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;-) May start a new thread if no one replies here. Kinda buried in |
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this thread. |