Re: [gentoo-user] Skype

[Lex Luthor]

Yeah, MS can have some pretty malicious practices. When they acquired Skype
they *removed* the E2E encryption.

On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 12:02 PM, R0b0t1 <r030t1@×××××.com> wrote:

> Hello,
>
>
> On Monday, November 27, 2017, Jigme Datse Yli-RAsku <
> jigme.datse@×××××××××××××××.com> wrote:
> > Is Skype "largely unusable" on Gentoo?  It feels like about 3 days ago I
> > was forced to upgrade because "this version is no longer supported" and
> > to upgrade I had to keyword the latest version.  If this keeps
> > happening, to me, this is broken.  And I'm not sure if the problem is
> > that we are so far behind, that when Microsoft removes support we only
> > just barely meet the requirements, or if there is something I am missing.
> >
> > I *do* like to keep my computer updated, but unless I misunderstand (and
> > it seems that Gentoo has changed a lot since I started using it about
> > 15-20 years ago (I think)) stable is the recommended way to run the
> > system unless you want to go into "here be pesky programmes" territory.
> > When I started, even "stable" was a lot more work than previously used
> > distributions, but with Gentoo, I've always felt that with Gentoo, while
> > doing "basic stuff" can be more difficult, other distributions have
> > always been "if it doesn't work out of the box, it's probably not that
> > worth trying to figure it out."
> >
> > I still feel that getting things working in Gentoo is always "a bit of
> > work" and if it "doesn't just work" it often still can be done without a
> > whole lot more work.  But having to upgrade in a "manual way" on
> > approximately a weekly basis just to have functionality tells me that
> > something is badly broken (and I don't feel it is Gentoo in this case,
> > but I need to have some better understanding).
> >
> > I know, that when I was trying to figure out just "what was supported" I
> > actually wasn't getting good information...
> >
>
> If it is keyworded it is "supported" unless you are using very niche
> software. This does not mean anyone will be able to help you fix things
> quickly.
>
> Unstable packages typically run well. I routinely fix issues by using
> unstable or even unkeyworded packages over the stable versions. Most issues
> arise when stable and unstable packages interact, usually due to breaking
> interface changes. So, paradoxically, an unstable (or testing) system can
> be more stable than a stable system.
>
> If you fix an issue by using an unstable package you can request
> stabilization. Sometimes people forget to do it. For a package like Skype,
> though, I suspect it will be stabilized as soon as possible.
>
> Cheers,
>     R0b0t1