Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Systemd upower

[Samuli Suominen]

On 05/06/14 08:23, Mick wrote:
> On Wednesday 04 Jun 2014 23:27:05 Samuli Suominen wrote:
>> On 05/06/14 01:14, »Q« wrote:
>>> On Tue, 03 Jun 2014 22:06:07 +0200
>>>
>>> Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@×××××.com> wrote:
>>>> The good news is that the version of upower prior to this decision
>>>> still works fine and likely will for ages to come. That code has been
>>>> bundled into a new package upower-pm-utils.
>>>>
>>>> Anyone that feels like doing it can now step up to the plate and
>>>> continue the work upower was doing earlier.
>>> I don't understand the development status of upower-pm-utils.  Is there
>>> someone either upstream or with Gentoo committed to maintaining it?
>> No, nobody is actively working on it, it's the abandoned upstream git
>> branch that used to be master before 0.99.0's release:
>>
>> Current sys-power/upower-pm-utils is same as latest code from
>> http://cgit.freedesktop.org/upower/log/?h=0.9
>> And last commit is 2013
>>
>> I might backport some fixes from git master over at some point later,
>> but I won't do any promises
>>
>>> Or
>>> is it a git branch created just to meet the current needs of
>>> non-systemd Gentoo users?
>> It's to be considered as a temporary solution for applications that need
>> the Hibernate and Suspend functionality
>> from UPower for non-systemd users, applications like
>> mate-session-manager, lxsession, uevt, and so forth
>>
>> Migrating to >=sys-power/upower-0.99.0 is the recommended path to take
>> if at all possible. It's possible for eg.
>> Xfce users, because Xfce in ~arch integrated sys-power/pm-utils support
>> directly for Hibernate and Suspend
>> Also, GNOME 3.12 requires 0.99.0
> Hi Samuli,
>
> Are you saying that as things stand it is a matter of time before a gentoo
> user will have to switch from openrc to systemd, if they want/need to continue
> using sleep and hibernate?
>

For those tasks you mentioned...

...if other desktops don't migrate like Xfce, then something like:

Switching to a) systemd, OR b) switching to Xfce (direct pm-utils
support in session and power managers),
OR c) switching to command line pm-* utilities directly from pm-utils

...might be inevitable

And if Linux kernel does changes that break pm-utils, which haven't had
a single commit since 2010
in upstream repository:

Switching to a) systemd, OR, b) wait, no other possibilities

Yes, that's really how poor the situation is, and don't shoot me, I'm
only the messenger :-)

- Samuli