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From: "Marzan
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: RE: [gentoo-user] Nvidia users: please sign petition for open/free drivers
Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2008 17:43:33
Message-Id: 32F9A50E9B2B5A4AA062A602121DD4F00795F82F@USEA-EXCH3.na.uis.unisys.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Nvidia users: please sign petition for open/free drivers by "Hemmann
1 > -----Original Message-----
2 > From: Hemmann, Volker Armin [mailto:volker.armin.hemmann@××××××××××××.de]
3 > Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 9:59 AM
4 > To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
5 > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Nvidia users: please sign petition for
6 > open/free drivers
7 >
8 > On Mittwoch, 2. Januar 2008, Jesús Guerrero wrote:
9 > > On Tue, 1 Jan 2008 19:51:36 +0100
10 > >
11 > > "Hemmann, Volker Armin" <volker.armin.hemmann@××××××××××××.de> wrote:
12 > > > On Montag, 31. Dezember 2007, Enrico Weigelt wrote:
13 > > > > Hi folks,
14 > > > >
15 > > > >
16 > > > > I'd just want to let you know there's an petition to NV on
17 > > > > opening their driver code (or at least specs) to the free world:
18 > > > >
19 > > > > * http://www.petitiononline.com/nvfoss/
20 > > >
21 > > > no, 'online petitions' are a worthless waste of time. They are like a
22 > > > fart in the wind - just worse. They are like farting and then tell
23 > > > everybody that you have farted. You are just angry that your beloved,
24 > but
25 > > > maybe crappy hardware does not work with a driver that is pretty old
26 > by
27 > > > now.
28 > >
29 > > Not true. It is true that a petition by itself will not do anything,
30 > > but it serves another purposes. Any joining effort demonstrates that
31 > > people actually care about a problem. And, by the way, if you fart,
32 > > the less you can do is to be honest, and not blame anyone else while
33 > > you are the only guilty.
34 >
35 > believe me, all the guys constantly whining around on nvnews have shown
36 > nvidia
37 > already that there are people who care about this.
38 >
39 > >
40 > > This is not about old or new hardware, this is about getting a free
41 > > driver, and that, as linux users, is something that would benefit
42 > > everyone in this list. You don't seem to understand what this is
43 > > about at all.
44 >
45 > it is not about a free driver, it is about a stupid petition. If you want
46 > free
47 > drivers, support nouveau or write a polite letter to nvidia.
48 >
49 > >
50 > > > > Please sign the petition and spread around this link.
51 > > >
52 > > > Please don't spam.
53 > >
54 > > We could argue if this topic is valid for the list or not, that is
55 > > debatable, but everything you wrote above this last sentence is pure
56 > > spam. Far more spammy than the post of the original poster. And, in
57 > > turn, you generated a need for additional responses, like the one from
58 > > Neil Walker and this one that I am writing right now.
59 >
60 > this topic and the 'support nouveau' has shown up on this list in the past
61 > AND
62 > every linux site out there SEVERAL times. So yes, it is spam. And asking
63 > people to spam other lists, makes it worse.
64 >
65 > >
66 > > Thing that could have been avoided if you just posted something in
67 > > the lines of "Isn't this offtopic?", and nothing more.
68 >
69 > Maybe you should have taken your own medicine? Not reacting at all to
70 > reduce
71 > noise? No?
72 >
73 >
74 > --
75 > gentoo-user@g.o mailing list
76
77
78 Keeping in mind that this petition probably might not work, I think it's a good idea to let Nvidia know how many people are interested in having free drivers. This might lead them to release information on how to write drivers for their hardware. I'm sick of sending polite letters to Nvidia. They are not going to give much thought to individuals sending polite letters. Not many people like to duke it out with corporations on their own -- It is better to do it as a group. Maybe all the "spam" they receive will get them to change their minds about freeing their software or at least specific information of how to write the free drivers. It is they after all that probably have to spend less money on coders if the software goes free.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Nvidia users: please sign petition for open/free drivers Neil Bothwick <neil@××××××××××.uk>