Re: [gentoo-user] separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01

[Dale]

Tanstaafl wrote:
> On 2013-09-29 2:25 PM, Dale <rdalek1967@×××××.com> wrote:
>> Tanstaafl wrote:
>>> The way I see it, if you cannot provide a rational answer to that
>>> question, then  there is no reason for you to use this as a reason to
>>> abandon gentoo, only a reason to merge /usr into /...
>
>> Simple, I have never had to resize / or /boot before.  I have had to
>> resize /usr, /var and /home several times tho.  THAT is the reason.
>
> Ok, but... everything I've read and personal experience over the years
> shows that space required for /usr should not change much, especially
> constantly grow over time (like requirements for /home can and will)-
> it may fluctuate (increase, decrease) *a little* over time, but it
> definitely should not grow substantially, so, if you had to resize it,
> most likely it is because you simply didn't allocate enough room to
> start with.

So my experience doesn't matter any then?  My /usr does vary and
sometimes varies quite a bit.  That is why I had to resize the thing. 
Saying that I didn't make it large enough to begin with isn't the
point.  When people use LVM, the reason they use it is so that we can
resize things when needed. 

>
>> For me, it doesn't matter if it is rational to YOU or not.
>
> Sorry, but rationality is not subjective. Just because something seems
> to be rational to you doesn't mean that it is.
>
> You have still not stated a logical, rational reason for wanting a
> separate /usr.

And what is ratinal for you, is not rational to me.  Since you can
dismiss mine, I can dismiss yours too.  Funny how that works huh?  For
ME, it is logical/rational for me to have the setup like I have it.  I
did it this way to speciffically avoid the init thingy and be flexible
when needed.  If I wanted one, I would have used one when I first
installed Gentoo and not only that, put everything but /boot on LVM. 

>
>> I am the one doing things on my puter not you or anyone else. If the
>> init thingy fails, that will be me staring at a error message, not
>> you.
>
> I don't want one of those things either, but that isn't what I was
> questioning you about.
>
> Of course you can do whatever you want *and* are technically capable
> of on your own computer, but that doesn't automatically make those
> things logical or rational.
>
> I did see one good case for a separate /usr (someone who was using
> ancient PATA drives, and something about striping for performance),
> but that was obviously a corner case...
>
>

You may not since you are not sitting in MY chair.  My statements are
not trying to change the way you run your puter, but yours seem to be
trying to get me to change mine.  I don't want to change mine when it
comes to adding a init thingy to the boot process.  Simple as that. 

Dale

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