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On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 6:27 PM, Tanstaafl <tanstaafl@×××××××××××.org> wrote: |
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> On 2013-10-21 6:11 AM, Mark David Dumlao <madumlao@×××××.com> wrote: |
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>> I doubt he actually has the time to read every line of code submitted |
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>> to the kernel, |
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> That isn't what I meant at all... |
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> What he *does* have the power to do, though, is if someone was able to sneak |
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> in something outrageously bad that caused breakage, he would rip it out at |
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> its roots, and probably make sure that whoever was responsible for it |
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> getting in was either properly chastised (if it was unintentional), or |
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Again. This power is overstated and overtrusted. As for "rip it out at |
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its roots" he has no ability to do that, only refuse to merge it in |
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his tree. But that's only if he bothers to read it. With all the other |
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stuff he's working on, he signs off less commits than all the other |
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maintainers do. |
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The news sites love making a big deal of him flaming this or that |
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developer or company, but I can't remember that ever stopping anyone |
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from doing what they wanted. |
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>> tldr: if the maintainer of some subsystem agrees, it's probably in. It |
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>> takes a lot of trust to get to become a maintainer. |
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> that trust would be lost, maybe for good. |
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> And by the way, it is this trust that you speak of that is one of the main |
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> reasons why I'm not worried about this. Linus has good people around him, |
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> and none of them would allow something like it to happen either. |
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I'm just explaining your overstatement of "trust" and I don't know |
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what this "something like this" is referring to. Obviously "broken |
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changes" isn't something to commit and is embarassing. But if you're |
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talking about Lennart-FUD, I will point you to |
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/usr/src/linux/doc/ManagementStyle |
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""" |
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Btw, another way to avoid a decision is to plaintively just whine "can't |
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we just do both?" and look pitiful. Trust me, it works. If it's not |
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clear which approach is better, they'll eventually figure it out. The |
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answer may end up being that both teams get so frustrated by the |
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situation that they just give up. |
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That's kind of the official kernel stance on "future of kernel |
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development" bla bla bla. If it's maintainable, they merge it, because |
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you can't really tell if one approach is going to "win" until it later |
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does. |
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