Re: [gentoo-user] Re: No more FLASH on Linux ?

[Alan McKinnon]

On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 00:32:33 +0000 (UTC)
Grant Edwards <grant.b.edwards@×××××.com> wrote:

> On 2012-02-25, Nikos Chantziaras <realnc@×××××.de> wrote:
> > On 25/02/12 16:48, Grant Edwards wrote:
> >> On 2012-02-25, Nikos Chantziaras<realnc@×××××.de>  wrote:
> >>> On 24/02/12 17:35, Grant Edwards wrote:
> >>>> On 2012-02-24, Nikos Chantziaras<realnc@×××××.de>   wrote:
> >>>>> On 24/02/12 07:02, pk wrote:
> >>>>>> On 2012-02-24 05:15, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> user can watch. Flash on the other hand guarantees web
> >>>>>>> designers that a PC user can watch their videos. Having a
> >>>>>>> guarantee that something works is a very powerful incentive;
> >>>>>>> you do not abandon something that works.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> It's only guaranteed if flash is installed. HTML5 is pretty
> >>>>>> much "guaranteed" with current browsers.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Flash has about 95% coverage.
> >>>>> That means virtually everyone has it installed.
> >>>>
> >>>> That's hard to believe.  The number of iPads and and iPhones out
> >>>> there is getting pretty high, and they don't have flash and
> >>>> never will.
> >>>
> >>> In PCs, not other machines.
> >>
> >> Why the restriction to PCs?  Web designers and website owners don't
> >> care about PCs.  They care about browsers and eyballs.
> >
> > PC users have browsers.  95% of those browsers have Flash.
>
> But your original statement was about "everyone".  "Everyone" isn't
> limited to PCs.  It includes iPads and iPods and iPhones.  There are
> 10's of millions of those out there, and they don't have flash.
>
> > I think this is pretty easy to understand.  Perhaps it's a language
> > barrier and I have trouble expressing myself clearly?
>
> I guess to me "everyone" is a more inclusive term.
>

The majority of sites running Flash were set up when iPads were just a
glint in Steve's eyes and the total market for non-Windows non-PC
browser platforms was too small to be relevant. Changing those sites is
not easy or simple.

So while it's perfectly true that there are now lots of non-flash
platforms out there, there's also this thing called "cultural inertia"
meaning that so much of the web still treats the web as being a place
where Flash has almost universal penetration

It's quite valid to mention "everyone" in this context, just realise
that it's used idiomatically (like almost every other word in
English...)

-- 
Alan McKinnnon
alan.mckinnon@×××××.com