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On 23.08.2013 19:58, hasufell wrote: |
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> On 08/23/2013 05:48 PM, Marc Stürmer wrote: |
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>> Am 23.08.2013 12:50, schrieb the: |
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>> The point for Skype, last time I am going to repeat that, is that it |
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>> works out of the box for the normal user and the large user base. |
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> And that is still wrong. If it works for you, fine. There are enough |
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> users who have a LOT of trouble with it. Again: read the bugtrackers, I do. |
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(Again, I'm not a skypodefender in any way) |
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Please recommend us a bugtracker for an actively developing software |
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which has, well, considerably fewer bugs. (Add to this: multiplatform, |
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multiuser, network-based etc) |
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> And even better: you cannot file bug reports properly (at least from |
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> what I see the skype jira is gone) and cannot read/fix code. |
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> You are lured into believing it's a good piece of software that works |
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> out of the box, because all they do is good advertisement and increasing |
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> their userbase with some shiny features. Even worse: distro maintainers |
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> have trouble with it, need to apply hacks or don't even include it at |
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> all because of the nasty license. How does that improve "out-of-the-box" |
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> experience? |
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Your view is simply different from the view of most software users. A |
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"good piece of software" for them is not what is well-coded or |
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well-maintained or well-licensed or well-whatever. All they need is |
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matching their expectations. You may be 146% correct about troubles and |
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hacks but this doesn't change the average joe's expectations. And yes, |
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in most situations skype does work out-of-the-box. Sad, but true. |
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> Next you will tell us windows works out of the box. |
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It does, in most situations. Sad, but true. |
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> I mean, wtf are you talking about? It doesn't make any sense. And |
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> doesn't even add anything to this topic. |
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That's all about off-topic. |
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But not acknowledging the truth doesn't add anything either. |
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Do people hate Windows or other proprietary stuff because of its bugs? |
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Or because of its not working OOTB? In my experience, I'd probably |
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number a thousand more times of open-source software not working OOTB |
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and being buggy than Windows/etc. But I still adhere to OSS. |
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I don't think that having an 'ideal' piece of proprietary software would |
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change an open-source adept's mind towards PS. But neither I think that |
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emphasizing PS' problems which are common to all software will help |
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people turn to the open-source side. |
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Best wishes, |
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Yuri K. Shatroff |
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