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On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 07:50:13PM +0200, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote: |
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> Hi Alan, |
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> On Monday, 12. September 2011 17:17:37 Alan Mackenzie wrote: |
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> > Hi, Michael. |
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> > On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 05:33:34PM +0200, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote: |
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> > > Hi Alan, |
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> > Well, I'm a hacker. udev is free source, therefore fair game. I don't |
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> > intend to put up with this nonsense without a fight. As far as I can |
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> > make out, this is just one guy, Kay Sievers, who's on a power trip. Are |
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> > there any indications at all that he actually talked to anybody in the |
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> > wide world before making such a far reaching decision? |
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> > On my current system, udev (164-r2) works without an earlily loaded /usr. |
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> > Seemingly, later versions don't. That was why I was asking for somebody |
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> > to identify one of these later versions for me. |
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> it works for you, because your udev-rules need nothing from /usr/* |
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> It's *not* udev requiring /usr, it's the scripts triggered by the rules. |
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Ah. OK. Maybe I've misunderstood the whole thing. Could it be that |
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there's no explicit requirement for early mounting of /usr, providing one |
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has the discipline to keep everything needed for booting in the / |
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partition? |
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> > > Fixing udev to continue working with separate /usr is far from trivial |
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> > > imo. Changing some paths is not the way to go for sure. |
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> > Maybe, maybe not. |
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> No, I wrote "for sure", because I *know* this. |
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Sorry about that. |
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> > > First of all, udev has to distinguish between "device not present" and |
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> > > "script error of some kind". Failing scripts have to be queued somehow |
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> > > for later execution. If a script keeps failing, it has to be removed |
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> > > from that queue, with a message to syslog or something like that. If |
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> > > udev needs a script in /usr/* to mount /usr then there's a |
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> > > chicken-egg-problem, which could be hard to solve (if possible at all |
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> > > without moving things from /usr/ to /). Note, that I am wild guessing |
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> > > here, I did not study the udev sources or any related script/rule :) |
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> Best, |
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> Michael |
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Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany). |
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