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From: Jeremi Piotrowski <jeremi.piotrowski@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: new computer : any advice ?
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 2015 19:35:18
Message-Id: alpine.LNX.2.20.1509092110170.20302@gentoo-tp.localdomain
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: new computer : any advice ? by "Stefan G. Weichinger"
1 On Wed, 9 Sep 2015, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
2
3 > On 09.09.2015 20:01, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
4 > > Digging up that thread now somewhere ...
5 >
6 > Ah, I even participated then ;-)
7 >
8 > AFAI understand gcc-5 should compile faster?
9 > And generate faster code in some cases?
10
11 No, and yes. Compilation is not affected in any way and runtime
12 performance can only be improved _if_ this stuff is explicitly used within
13 the code.
14
15 Meaning you would feel a difference in no less then 5 years when gcc-6 is
16 widely used and accelerator support is not restricted to intel MIC and
17 nvidia gpus. James is getting a bit ahead of himself calling this a
18 "game changer" - yeaaaaah... not really right now.
19
20 Right now this functionality is a toy for the HPC community and will stay
21 that way. To use it you have to build a separate offloading compiler, need
22 custom code used by few, and expensive hardware. The tree ebuild doesn't
23 even provide a way for enabling the accelerator support.
24
25
26 >
27 > ... does it use this new stuff anyway, do we need a specific USE-flag
28 > enabled (I can't spot it, looking for something like "acc" or "rdma"
29 > ;-)), do we need specific CFLAGS .. ?
30 >
31 > just curious.
32
33 I can't speak for RDMA (can't find any mention of it in gcc) because
34 that's an even more exotic thing than plain old accelerator support
35 (unless you run infiniband at home...), but the flags are:
36
37 -fopenmp
38 -foffload
39 -fopenacc
40
41 However enabling them is as useful as having CFLAGS=-fopenmp currently. It
42 changes __nothing__ unless an application has openmp annotations, and the
43 ones that do should already provide a means of doing so in the build
44 system.
45
46 tldr: don't buy a dedicated gpu just because you read something on a
47 mailing list ;)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: new computer : any advice ? "Stefan G. Weichinger" <lists@×××××.at>
[gentoo-user] Re: new computer : any advice ? james <wireless@×××××××××××.com>
[gentoo-user] Re: new computer : any advice ? james <wireless@×××××××××××.com>