Gentoo Archives: gentoo-user

From: mad.scientist.at.large@××××××××.com
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] disable Intel Mgr Engine
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2018 03:26:14
Message-Id: LML6HuT--3-1@tutanota.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] disable Intel Mgr Engine by james
1 I want to say minix.  It's online but i don't remember where.  I believe it connects directly to the built in network jack and people were able to hack it enough through that port to see what OS it was running and there are likely exploits through that connection.  Not at all sure how far people have gotten with it.
2 I believe (would have to check) that someone on the list said the opterons were/are the last chips before the psp etc. was part of the processor (is that where it's at in amd chips?).
3 I've seriously considered, in the near future, building some reconfigurable computing fabric with fpga chips.  Which let's you run any processor model that fits on the hardware and that you can write some form of HDL (hardware descriptive language, i.e. hardware functioning specified in a design language, which can easily be changed to explore any type of arch you want, given enough fabric, and have many cores running in parallel say for DSP, GPU, CPU, etc. so that the arch, instruction set, and hardware utilization is as high as possible, for an fpga. 
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5 Down side is more power, more board space, and obviously more cost potentially.  The larger hardware software development companies often do this to produce hardware that emulates chips they can't get their hands on yet because they aren't being sold yet but have a preliminary specification expected to be close to the final form.  Note that you can always fix hardware security flaws this way as the hardware is reconfigurable at will.  I have seen cryptomining rigs using fpga hardware with high power efficiency, but they are custom designed board etc. to make maximum use of the fpga and obviously highly optimized in other ways.
6 I'm fascinated by this whole area of knowledge and application, i.e. having full control and access to everything.
7 Bellow is a sig referencing that news channel, which I've like for a very long time.  They tend to do a good job, IMHO.  I do know what's going on, I am terrified in a way I never have been before, considering the likelyhood the future will be far to interesting in my country for some time and I'm getting too old for chaos.  Mild issues setting it the way I want right now, too many urgent things to do and too many bad days.
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9 Democracy now!
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12 13. Sep 2018 20:56 by garftd@×××××××.net <mailto:garftd@×××××××.net>:
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15 > On 9/13/18 7:52 PM, > mad.scientist.at.large@××××××××.com <mailto:mad.scientist.at.large@××××××××.com>> wrote:
16 >> Actually, we now know what linux it runs and people are starting to
17 >> break it, at least as far as finding bugs.�
18 >
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20 > Do enlighten me; what linux (ebedded) does ME run? any details are of
21 > interest to me.
22 >
23 >
24 >> Remember, this is embeded, no easy way to update the code to patch exploits.�
25 >
26 > Many embedded systems are rather sloppy with security, once you find
27 > the jtag or other low level interface pins. Not hard to get find docs on
28 > most boards? Often other ports can be used to download codes to a
29 > variety of memory on the boards. It takes time, unless you get docs,
30 > which then it is fairly routine for embedded devs.
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33 >> Just need to rootkit that sucker, or don't buy frigin intel.
34 >
35 > agreed.
36 >>
37 >> Gee, I'd really love an openpower machine, but i'm not rich, and most of
38 >> us aren't.� I'm disabled, I will never be able to buy a new computer,
39 >> much less a top of the line unit.
40 >
41 > I have no interest about openpower, but surely there is a way to get you
42 > some better hardware?
43 >
44 >>
45 >> What ever happened to the open bios project?� seemed like there was real
46 >> progress and that the bridge chip makers etc. were finally making
47 >> documentation available to someone other than the main bios makers.
48 >
49 > I've just never really worked on this ME/PSP issue. Surely there are
50 > sites and projects that welcome folks to participate and get the basic
51 > info on the state of the public knowledge?
52 >
53 >
54 >> Democracy now!
55 >
56 > Dream on. Everybody has a different view of democracy. Gated communities
57 > and isolate communities are the wave of the future. Different folks just
58 > do not get along, socially. Online filters out the unacceptable
59 > differences. Besides the world is preparing for war. 8 billion strong,
60 > and jobs for less than a billion? War cometh....
61 >
62 > Get small and hide....
63 >
64 > Now about you getting some better hardware. Drop me some private mail.
65 >
66 > James
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69 >> 13. Sep 2018 14:55 by >> Taiidan@×××.com <mailto:Taiidan@×××.com>>> <>> mailto:Taiidan@×××.com <mailto:mailto:Taiidan@×××.com>>> >:
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71 >> Impossible - ME can't be disabled.
72 >>
73 >> Me cleaner only nerfs it by removing various modules, either BUP (init)
74 >> still runs or the kernel still runs plus any option/mask roms.
75 >>
76 >> If you want a PC without black boxes either buy a pre-PSP amd board like
77 >> KGPE-D16/KCMA-D8, g505s laptop and install coreboot/libreboot+openbmc or
78 >> get a non-x86 device like the brand new/fast OpenPOWER9 TALOS 2
79 >> (>> https://raptorcs.com <https://raptorcs.com>>> ) which is currently selling for less than
80 >> equivilant x86 hardware.
81 >>
82 >> The only owner controlled CPU arch now is OpenPOWER.
83 >>