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From: tuxic@××××××.de
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] New PC hangs/lacks ?
Date: Wed, 06 May 2020 19:49:10
Message-Id: 20200506194858.armafhwylhzt5epr@solfire
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] New PC hangs/lacks ? by Walter Dnes
1 Hi Walter,
2
3 thanks for your input again.
4
5 A said previously: This is not a problem of a high load,
6 which needs to be handled. This is kinda temporary deadlock.
7 Even if I would choose the best possible scheduler...the
8 CPU would not get the chance to execute the code of the scheduler,
9 because something locks the system. This description is meant to
10 describe the situation more than to describe the exact technical
11 background, for which I still search a solution to avoid it completly.
12
13 In the moment everything runs fine again, without haveing changed
14 any kernel configuration or anything else actively. /Something/
15 must have changed, though.
16
17 Cheers!
18 Meino
19
20
21 On 05/06 02:23, Walter Dnes wrote:
22 > You can make some tradeoffs with kernel options. Which one you
23 > choose is up to you (assuming it's your personal machine). In
24 > "make menuconfig" go to...
25 >
26 > General setup -->
27 > Preemption Model --->
28 >
29 > You have 3 choices. The 1st choice will probably finish your
30 > rendering fastest, but other programs will have problems breaking in for
31 > a timeslice. This will look like freezing. The 3rd choice will give
32 > the most possibility for other programs to preempt, but will run
33 > slightly slower overall. The 2nd choice is a compromise. Assuming
34 > you're the admin of the machine, the choice is up to you. Sorry, "you
35 > can't have your cake and eat it too".
36 >
37 > 1) "No Forced Preemption (Server)"; manual version "CONFIG_PREEMPT_NONE"
38 >
39 > > This is the traditional Linux preemption model, geared towards
40 > > throughput. It will still provide good latencies most of the time,
41 > > but there are no guarantees and occasional longer delays are possible.
42 > >
43 > > Select this option if you are building a kernel for a server or
44 > > scientific/computation system, or if you want to maximize the raw
45 > > processing power of the kernel, irrespective of scheduling latencies.
46 >
47 > 2) "Voluntary Kernel Preemption (Desktop)"; "CONFIG_PREEMPT_VOLUNTARY"
48 >
49 > > This option reduces the latency of the kernel by adding more
50 > > "explicit preemption points" to the kernel code. These new
51 > > preemption points have been selected to reduce the maximum latency
52 > > of rescheduling, providing faster application reactions, at the
53 > > cost of slightly lower throughput.
54 > >
55 > > This allows reaction to interactive events by allowing a low
56 > > priority process to voluntarily preempt itself even if it is in
57 > > kernel mode executing a system call. This allows applications to
58 > > run more 'smoothly' even when the system is under load.
59 >
60 > 3) "Preemptible Kernel (Low-Latency Desktop)"; "CONFIG_PREEMPT"
61 >
62 > > This option reduces the latency of the kernel by making all kernel
63 > > code (that is not executing in a critical section) preemptible.
64 > > This allows reaction to interactive events by permitting a low
65 > > priority process to be preempted involuntarily even if it is in kernel
66 > > mode executing a system call and would otherwise not be about to reach
67 > > a natural preemption point. This allows applications to run more
68 > > 'smoothly' even when the system is under load, at the cost of slightly
69 > > lower throughput and a slight runtime overhead to kernel code.
70 >
71 > --
72 > Walter Dnes <waltdnes@××××××××.org>
73 > I don't run "desktop environments"; I run useful applications
74 >