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From: "Jesús Guerrero" <i92guboj@×××××.es>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] make an -9999 ebuild compile only if necessary
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 02:05:29
Message-Id: e622d432a3e6feb05e6c1ef3f3e65f76@localhost
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] make an -9999 ebuild compile only if necessary by Alan McKinnon
1 On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 22:28:40 +0200, Alan McKinnon
2 <alan.mckinnon@×××××.com>
3 wrote:
4 > On Tuesday 22 December 2009 19:21:21 Helmut Jarausch wrote:
5 >> Hi,
6 >>
7 >> I have ebuilds fetching the source code directly from a repository
8 >> (be it CVS,SVN,HG,GIT,...)
9 >> I'd like to modify the .ebuild to enter compilation only if something
10 >> has been updated.
11 >> Is this possible, has somebody else tried to do so?
12 >
13 > You can't.
14 >
15 > The only things that trigger a recompile are the things you already know
16 >
17 > - version number change
18 > - USE flag change
19 > - mask change
20 >
21 > None of those things has occurred in your scenario, so a recompile will
22 > not
23 > happen. This is by design and you should leave it this way.
24
25 I think that we are looking through the wrong lens. In this case version
26 numbers will be plainly irrelevant 99% of the times, after all, it's a 9999
27 ebuild which we are talking about. Most times, the only factor that
28 triggers the merge for a 9999 ebuild is *the user*. And nothing in the
29 ebuild will prevent that of course, at least until Gentoo can control our
30 minds, which will eventually happen :lol: What we should be looking at -in
31 my humble opinion- is towards interrupting the execution of the ebuild once
32 that we find that there's nothing new (like when you do 'emake || die').
33 That's certainly possible as long as the RCS tool used provides a
34 consistent way to check if there has been a commit that needs to be
35 downloaded.
36
37 Of course, we would need some kind of IGNORE_RCS_CHECKS boolean variable
38 to override this, for those cases where we truly need to force a
39 recompilation of the offending package, or a similar mechanism, which could
40 also be printed using ewarn, einfo or whatever applies for the situation
41 when the ebuild aborts.
42
43 As far as I can think, I see no fundamental showstopper, this could be
44 implemented at the corresponding eclass for the given RCS backend, I guess.
45 That would save the need to modify every single 9999 ebuild (not that there
46 are a lot anyway). The only problem is that the fact that there's nothing
47 to download doesn't necessarily mean that your binary files are in sync
48 with your sources. For example, the source tree could have been updated on
49 a previous run of the build, but something might have stopped it before the
50 final objects are dumped into your real SO from the sandbox (electrical
51 outages, control+c's, build failures).
52
53 Also, I am no specialist in RCS's, and I have no idea if there's a truly
54 reliable way to get the needed info from them.
55
56 > It's best to just always recompile everything, which is what you do when
57 > you
58 > work with CVS code manually.
59 >
60 > I also asked the same question in the past - about e17 - the above is my
61
62 > conclusions.
63
64 The real question is if it's worth all the effort to implement the
65 feature, I guess. In my case, when I am using development code for any
66 reason I am also subscribed to the corresponding commits mailing list or
67 tracker, that means that I get notified by email the following minute if
68 there's anything new on that repository, and I can decide if the commit
69 will do me any good or if I can wait for the next important one. So, in my
70 case, the feature is not worth to invest a single minute. Of course,
71 everyone is free to disagree. :)
72
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75 Jesús Guerrero