Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo on a cell?

[james]

On 2/18/20 11:00 PM, rudi@×××××.net wrote:
>
>
> On Feb 18, 2020 22:33, james <garftd@×××××××.net> wrote:
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>     On 2/18/20 9:29 PM, William Kenworthy wrote:
>      >
>      > On 19/2/20 4:16 am, james wrote:
>      >> So,
>      >>
>      >> After contacting several US carriers, the cover story is you can
>     get a
>      >> cell phone, root it with linux, and it 'should work'.
>     Supposedly, you
>      >> are encourage, but they
>      >> will not offer any help. So rather than spending months,
>      >> I'd like to 'cheat' and find a gentoo hack(er) that has
>      >> rooted and put some form of gentoo, or embedded_gentoo
>      >> on a cell phone.
>      >>
>      >> Please respond to the list, but, for whatever reason, private
>      >> responses are OK too.
>      >>
>      >>
>      >> I'm just tire of my Android cell phone downloading update *every
>      >> night*. I want/need control of the stacks
>      >> running on the phone. I have heard this is quite popular in
>     Europe and
>      >> the Rf circuits have their own firmware, so it's really next to
>      >> impossible to hack the Rf side
>      >> of communications.....?
>      >>
>      >>
>      >> Any and all responses, public or private, are most welcome.
>     Links only
>      >> are fine too!
>      >>
>      >>
>      >> James
>      >
>      >
>      > For gentoo, I would say "not easy at all" - the problem is custom
>      > hardware, propriety drivers and lack of information, even in well
>      > supported models.
>      >
>      > There was an app where you could install gentoo into something
>     like a
>      > container - worked well but the android kernel I was using at the
>     time
>      > didn't have some functioned enabled that fed into limiting some
>      > operations in the container.
>      >
>      > Easier and more practical would be to install LibreOS. You can
>     build ii
>      > yourself and build/include your own software as needed - I did it
>     many
>      > times with its Cyanogenmod predecessor (I presume you still
>     can).� There
>      > are some other stacks suitable for phones such as sailfish and even
>      > android can be built yourself (and you can defang/customise it while
>      > doing it - google not needed and if you dont install GAPPS it still
>      > works fine)
>      >
>      > To be honest, if what you mentioned is your main gripe, build
>     android
>      > and use a third party app store like F-Droid to control that side
>     of the
>      > equation.
>      >
>      > Make sure you look into rooting, flashing a new OS and the
>     implications
>      > of doing so - that can be another whole level of pain depending
>     on the
>      > brand of your hardware, and how recent it is (less chance with
>     new stuff
>      > as the really smart people have not had time to trailblaze :)
>      >
>      > BillK
>
>     Good info (thanks!)
>     Here's what I've found so far. The purpose of this posting is to share
>     info, so we have a gentoo on a cell phone. I am currently researching
>     'unlocked' samsung phones that support 5G and CDMA, so most sim cards
>     should work. If others are interested, or know of viable github (etc)
>     places to upload codes to, gentoo centric, I'd be all for that. I just
>     done with carriers running my cell phones. Sure they can control the RF
>     (hardware), but not the software running on the phone. here are a few
>     links::
>
>
>     https://fossbytes.com/how-to-install-a-linux-on-android-phone-without-rooting/
>
>
>
>     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_mobile_virtual_network_operators
>
>
>     Here is an unlocked 5G and CDMA? I'm looking at to root with gentoo::
>
>     Galaxy S20 5G 128GB (Unlocked)
>     https://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/phones/galaxy-s/galaxy-s20-5g-128gb-unlocked-sm-g981uzaaxaa/
>
>
>     Chating with samsung right now. Explaining *why* there needs to be a
>     samsung dev phone, supporting and working with Gentoo....�� we'll see
>     how this goes...
>
>     More comments? encouragement, folks interested?
>
>     James
>
> I am very interested, although my testing capabilities would be
> restricted to a non-samsung Pixel 3. My�understanding is also that the
> Pixel and Nexus devices publish their "vendor blobs" or hardware
> binaries online which may help?�I've experimented with Ubuntu Touch a
> bit on the Nexus 5, however the device is quite slow at this point. My
> use case wouldn't be so much for control over updates, but more for
> things like Convergence (Ubuntu), Dex (Samsung) or Android Desktop.
> Where you dock your phone and have a linux/Android desktop with floating
> windows etc.
>
>  �I'd like to be kept in the loop on this, and if possible I would also
> like to help contribute software however I'm not really skilled with
> hardware. I configure my kernel and that's about it.

Look at what's new, says it runs Kali, This new phone  would be 
excellent for a gentoo-embedded (cell) port?

Astro Slide

https://www.zdnet.com/article/this-5g-smartphone-comes-with-android-linux-and-a-keyboard-back-to-the-future-with-the-astro-slide/?ftag=TRE-03-10aaa6b&bhid=29128215408769320614767878147805

I'm still waiting on Samsung to lower prices on the S-20 ultra with 0.5 
T massive ram and the newest chipsets. Perhaps we should all collect and 
share data under gentoo-embedded?


curiously,
James

hth,
James