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Holly~ |
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I wish I had know this before emerging gnome... :( |
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What I may do (just because gnome is such a pig on compilation) is emerge |
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firefox and thunderbird, and leave it as-is. I may as well explore the apps |
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that gnome has been so gracious to include, and then, when I've discovered |
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which are useful and which aren't, I can go back, unmerge gnome, and emerge |
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gnome-light and build in what I want to use... |
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The crux of the issue is that there are thousands of packages in portage |
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that we (as noob's) don't really know what they are (or what they mean, |
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since the names are a little cryptic at times), so we plow ahead with what |
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we "think" we want, only to discover scenarios just like the one I'm in now. |
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If it doesn't already exist, I'm thinking of trying to build a set of pages |
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that gives a friendlier look and feel to portage... |
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PACKAGE STABLE OTHER |
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Thunderbird Mail/News Client 1.0.6-r2 1.0.6-r3 |
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1.0.6-r4 |
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1.0.6-r5 (HARD |
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MASKED) |
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Selecting the package name would bring up a page that shows all of the |
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information... |
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<LONG DESCRIPTION> |
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<COMMENTS> |
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<USE FLAGS> |
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<DEPENDENCIES/REVERSE DEPENDENCIES> |
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<SCREENSHOTS> |
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<BUGS> |
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<CHANGELOG> |
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<STABLE> w/link |
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<OTHER> w/link |
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I don't know how far this can go, since some of the packages may not be able |
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to be named so succinctly, but it may be worth a shot... |
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John D |
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-----Original Message----- |
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From: Holly Bostick [mailto:motub@××××××.nl] |
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Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2005 2:45 PM |
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To: gentoo-user@l.g.o |
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Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] browser,news,mail |
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John Dangler schreef: |
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> I just found some docs on this that say "Large organizations that require |
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an |
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> integrated suite (past Netscape Communicator users) should consider moving |
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> towards Mozilla 1.7. All others should consider upgrading to Firefox and |
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> Thunderbird." |
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> So, I guess the question becomes, can I unmerge Mozilla and emerge Firefox |
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> and Thunderbird? Or do they need to see Mozilla libs somewhere, since |
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> they're offered by the same org? |
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The answer to your question is "yes and no". |
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Not because Firefox needs Mozilla to run (it doesn't), but because you |
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have emerged the gnome meta-package, of which the Mozilla Suite is a |
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(deep) dependency (because the full GNOME installation installs GNOME's |
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web browser, Epiphany, which directly depends on Mozilla). |
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So if you uninstall Mozilla now, you will 1) break Epiphany, and 2) |
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break the meta-package. GNOME will still work, except for Epiphany, but |
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Portage will at some point become aware that one of the dependencies for |
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one of your installed applications-- in this case, the gnome |
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meta-package-- has been uninstalled. Which is, of course, not cool as |
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far as Portage is concerned, so it will, of course, attempt to reinstall |
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Mozilla at every opportunity. |
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Which is kind of a PITA, if you went to all the trouble to uninstall it |
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in the first place. |
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The solution? Replace the 'gnome' metapackage with the 'gnome-light' |
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metapackage, which installs a full GNOME desktop, without the |
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applications that could be considered 'cruft', such as Mozilla, |
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sound-juicer, Totem, Evolution (and Evolution Data Server) and GStreamer. |
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How do you switch when GNOME is already installed? |
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1) emerge -C gnome. |
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This will *not* unmerge any applications, just the metapackage itself, |
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thereby orphaning the dependencies that you want to uninstall. |
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2) emerge -C the 'extra' programs you don't want (Mozilla, Epiphany, |
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Evo, EDS, Totem, Sound Juicer, whatever). Also make sure that your USE |
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flags conform to your choices (add -mozilla, and also -eds if you don't |
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want evolution-data-server to be re-emerged when you upgrade gnome-panel). |
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3) emerge gnome-light |
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This will not emerge anything new (unless you ripped out Nautilus or |
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something in your purge ;) ), but will 'adopt' all the orphaned GNOME |
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desktop dependencies that were orphaned by your unmerge of the gnome |
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meta-package, so when you next emerge -uDv world, if there are updates |
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to GNOME, they will be picked up (because they are dependencies of the |
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gnome-light package). |
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Hope this helps, |
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Holly |
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