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From: Mark Knecht <markknecht@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Thanks and bye for now
Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 14:30:34
Message-Id: 5bdc1c8b0812290630w5f0bd00o78e6e904a2f5d26f@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Thanks and bye for now by Alan McKinnon
1 On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 6:05 AM, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@×××××.com> wrote:
2 > On Monday 29 December 2008 16:02:45 Mark Knecht wrote:
3 >> On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 5:55 AM, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@×××××.com>
4 > wrote:
5 >> > On Monday 29 December 2008 15:32:45 Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
6 >> >> Dale wrote:
7 >> >> > Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
8 >> >> >> Dale wrote:
9 >> >> >>> [...]
10 >> >> >>> I would assume I don't have evdev here. Since I asked equery for
11 >> >> >>> anything with dev in it, it should have listed it if it was
12 >> >> >>> installed. That is why I ask if there was something new. I can't
13 >> >> >>> say that I have
14 >> >> >>> ever heard of evdev before.
15 >> >> >>
16 >> >> >> For X, it's the x11-drivers/xf86-input-evdev package. The driver
17 >> >> >> uses the in-kernel "event interface" driver for keyboard and mouse.
18 >> >> >> It's in "Device Drivers->Input device support->Event interface". You
19 >> >> >> need to configure it in xorg.conf to use it.
20 >> >> >>
21 >> >> >> So in other words, you don't have it ;)
22 >> >> >
23 >> >> > Is this required for the new kernels? If not, why does it work in the
24 >> >> > old ones and not the new ones? Why is something not informing us it
25 >> >> > is needed would be a good question as well. I'll make sure the new
26 >> >> > kernel has that tho when I test it. Just in case.
27 >> >>
28 >> >> It's not needed nor required. It's just a different driver. I'm not
29 >> >> sure, but I think the point of this driver is for X to support
30 >> >> autodetected input devices. If you remove all sections for keyboard and
31 >> >> mouse from your x.org conf, then it will autodetect them and use evdev.
32 >> >> This must be part of the plan to get rid of xorg.conf entirely; if you
33 >> >> delete xorg.conf, X should autodetect everything (it's not there yet I
34 >> >> guess, but comes close.)
35 >> >
36 >> > For a single user conventional workstation using X.org 1.5, the X devs
37 >> > want you to install hal and evdev, then remove xorg.conf entirely and let
38 >> > X autodetect the lot.
39 >> >
40 >> > Personally, I can't wait for the day when xorg.conf on single-users
41 >> > workstations can be trashed *entirely*
42 >> >
43 >> > --
44 >> > alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
45 >>
46 >> First I've heard of this. Interesting. Is there something I should be
47 >> reading to keep up with this sort of change?
48 >
49 > Google, I suppose :-)
50 >
51 > I first read it on an Ubuntu dev's blog, then picked up more info from
52 > freedesktop.org when looking for debugging info for an nVidia card. i.e. I
53 > stumbled on it purely by chance.
54 >
55
56 Thanks. I thought this comment was somehow more about Gentoo devs than
57 Linux/xorg overall. My mistake.
58
59 Cheers,
60 Mark