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From: "Canek Peláez Valdés" <caneko@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Cc: Nicolas Sebrecht <nsebrecht@×××××.fr>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: technical review of systemd
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 16:41:01
Message-Id: CADPrc82Vqhpz=+k5JaxpQnLcnUeWGxphJAvW7iBSC44kVv6MHw@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: [gentoo-user] Re: technical review of systemd by Nicolas Sebrecht
1 On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 5:38 AM, Nicolas Sebrecht <nsebrecht@×××××.fr> wrote:
2
3 [snip]
4
5 > The way systemd services handle network whatever "network manager" you
6 > enable is the last thing preventing me from using systemd on servers.
7 > Seting up manual advanced setups on systemd looks crappy (if even
8 > possible with the provided tools) compared to OpenRC.
9 >
10 > Notice that iproute2 is the default everywhere for long time, here.
11 >
12 > The OpenRC comprehensive configuration set for network management is
13 > actually what I would expect in systemd.
14
15 Perhaps they are starting small? I don't know; from what I've read,
16 they want something small for simple cases, and if you need more you
17 can use NetworkManager, connman, iproute2, or whatever.
18
19 But then you had to configure it yourself.
20
21 [snip]
22
23 >> And, by the way, someone make me notice that netctl is an Arch'ism,
24 >> and that the command-line front-end for networkd is actually
25 >> networkctl.
26 >
27 > Yes, it was taken from Arch in order to allow better network support for
28 > advanced configurations whitout requiring to write yet another tool.
29
30 Nothing was taken from Arch, I believe. networkctl and netctl had
31 nothing to do with each other.
32
33 > The thing is that I would expect systemd to handle the whole thing on
34 > its own (with the help of iproute2) so that services have nice
35 > grain-level dependencies.
36
37 If someone writes support for this and convinces the systemd
38 maintainers that is a good idea, I think they would accept the
39 patches.
40
41 Regards.
42 --
43 Canek Peláez Valdés
44 Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación
45 Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: technical review of systemd "Canek Peláez Valdés" <caneko@×××××.com>
[gentoo-user] Re: technical review of systemd Nicolas Sebrecht <nsebrecht@×××××.fr>