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On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 1:57 AM, Joerg Schilling |
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<Joerg.Schilling@××××××××××××××××.de> wrote: |
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> Mark Knecht <markknecht@×××××.com> wrote: |
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>> Hi, |
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>> I've got a bit of a problem recently with (I think) k3b. Over the |
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>> last couple of months *some* copies of CDs made in k3b using the Clone |
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>> Copy feature do not reliably play in my car's CD player. I've tried |
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> The clone copy mode of cdrecord is definitely worse for audio CDs than |
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> using cdda2wav -vall cddb=0 -paranoia and writing using cdrecord. |
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> It makes sense to be used for "other" type CDs with complex unknown strucure. |
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>> I'm wondering if there is a program that can verify the contents of |
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>> each CD against each other, bit for bit, to identify whether this is a |
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>> problem on all of my computers or whether it's something about my |
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>> car's CD. The strange thing is that the original CDs play fine in the |
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>> car. It's only the copies that sometimes don't, and it's only the |
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>> copies of *some* CDs, not all CDs. |
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> The car player may be dusty or broken (worn out laser). |
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> You may try better quality blank media ;-) |
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> To verify playability, you may call: |
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> cdrecord -minfo |
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> to check the media state |
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> and "readcd -c2scan" |
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> to check the readability. |
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> Jörg |
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I will see about buying a CD player cleaning disk. I suppose they |
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still make those. |
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I've used 3 different spindle of CDs before I started the thread. I'm |
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happy to try 'better' media if I can determine what that means without |
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guessing. |
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Here's an example. The first printout is the original CD-R I copied. |
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It plays fine in the car. The second and 3rd printouts are copies of |
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that CD-R. Neither plays in the car. However other CD-Rs copied the |
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same way do play. |
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<ORIGINAL CD-R> |
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mark@lightning ~/Desktop $ cdrecord dev=1000,0,0 -minfo |
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Cdrecord-ProDVD-ProBD-Clone 2.01.01a57 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu) |
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Copyright (C) 1995-2009 Jörg Schilling |
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scsidev: '1000,0,0' |
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scsibus: 1000 target: 0 lun: 0 |
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Linux sg driver version: 3.5.27 |
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Using libscg version 'schily-0.9'. |
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Device type : Removable CD-ROM |
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Version : 0 |
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Response Format: 2 |
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Capabilities : |
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Vendor_info : 'LITE-ON ' |
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Identifikation : 'DVDRW LDW-411S ' |
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Revision : 'FS0B' |
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Device seems to be: Generic mmc2 DVD-ROM. |
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Using generic SCSI-3/mmc CD-R/CD-RW driver (mmc_cdr). |
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Driver flags : MMC-3 SWABAUDIO BURNFREE FORCESPEED |
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Supported modes: TAO PACKET SAO SAO/R96P SAO/R96R RAW/R16 RAW/R96P RAW/R96R |
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cdrecord: Warning: The DMA speed test has been skipped. |
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Mounted media class: CD |
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Mounted media type: CD-R |
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Disk Is not erasable |
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data type: standard |
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disk status: complete |
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session status: complete |
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BG format status: none |
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first track: 1 |
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number of sessions: 1 |
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first track in last sess: 1 |
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last track in last sess: 11 |
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Disk Is not unrestricted |
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Disk type: CD-DA or CD-ROM |
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last start of lead in: 716730 |
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last start of lead out: 1166730 |
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Track Sess Type Start Addr End Addr Size |
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============================================== |
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1 1 Audio 0 23026 23027 |
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2 1 Audio 23027 44169 21143 |
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3 1 Audio 44170 63216 19047 |
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4 1 Audio 63217 76686 13470 |
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5 1 Audio 76687 117404 40718 |
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6 1 Audio 117405 131951 14547 |
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7 1 Audio 131952 142681 10730 |
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8 1 Audio 142682 161906 19225 |
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9 1 Audio 161907 185974 24068 |
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10 1 Audio 185975 217481 31507 |
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11 1 Audio 217482 263931 46450 |
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Last session start address: 0 |
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Last session leadout start address: 263932 |
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mark@lightning ~/Desktop $ |
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<COPIED - doesn't play in car> |
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mark@lightning ~/Desktop $ cdrecord dev=1000,0,0 -minfo |
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Cdrecord-ProDVD-ProBD-Clone 2.01.01a57 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu) |
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Copyright (C) 1995-2009 Jörg Schilling |
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scsidev: '1000,0,0' |
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scsibus: 1000 target: 0 lun: 0 |
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Linux sg driver version: 3.5.27 |
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Using libscg version 'schily-0.9'. |
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Device type : Removable CD-ROM |
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Version : 0 |
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Response Format: 2 |
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Capabilities : |
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Vendor_info : 'LITE-ON ' |
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Identifikation : 'DVDRW LDW-411S ' |
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Revision : 'FS0B' |
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Device seems to be: Generic mmc2 DVD-ROM. |
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Using generic SCSI-3/mmc CD-R/CD-RW driver (mmc_cdr). |
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Driver flags : MMC-3 SWABAUDIO BURNFREE FORCESPEED |
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Supported modes: TAO PACKET SAO SAO/R96P SAO/R96R RAW/R16 RAW/R96P RAW/R96R |
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cdrecord: Warning: The DMA speed test has been skipped. |
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Mounted media class: CD |
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Mounted media type: CD-R |
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Disk Is not erasable |
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data type: standard |
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disk status: complete |
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session status: complete |
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BG format status: none |
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first track: 1 |
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number of sessions: 1 |
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first track in last sess: 1 |
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last track in last sess: 11 |
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Disk Is not unrestricted |
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Disk type: CD-DA or CD-ROM |
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last start of lead in: 716730 |
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last start of lead out: 1166730 |
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Track Sess Type Start Addr End Addr Size |
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1 1 Audio 0 23026 23027 |
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2 1 Audio 23027 44169 21143 |
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3 1 Audio 44170 63216 19047 |
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4 1 Audio 63217 76686 13470 |
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5 1 Audio 76687 117404 40718 |
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6 1 Audio 117405 131951 14547 |
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7 1 Audio 131952 142681 10730 |
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8 1 Audio 142682 161906 19225 |
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9 1 Audio 161907 185974 24068 |
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10 1 Audio 185975 217481 31507 |
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11 1 Audio 217482 263931 46450 |
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Last session start address: 0 |
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Last session leadout start address: 263932 |
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mark@lightning ~/Desktop $ |
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<COPIED - doesn't play in car> |
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mark@lightning ~/Desktop $ cdrecord dev=1000,0,0 -minfo |
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Cdrecord-ProDVD-ProBD-Clone 2.01.01a57 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu) |
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Copyright (C) 1995-2009 Jörg Schilling |
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scsidev: '1000,0,0' |
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scsibus: 1000 target: 0 lun: 0 |
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Linux sg driver version: 3.5.27 |
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Using libscg version 'schily-0.9'. |
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Device type : Removable CD-ROM |
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Version : 0 |
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Response Format: 2 |
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Capabilities : |
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Vendor_info : 'LITE-ON ' |
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Identifikation : 'DVDRW LDW-411S ' |
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Revision : 'FS0B' |
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Device seems to be: Generic mmc2 DVD-ROM. |
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Using generic SCSI-3/mmc CD-R/CD-RW driver (mmc_cdr). |
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Driver flags : MMC-3 SWABAUDIO BURNFREE FORCESPEED |
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Supported modes: TAO PACKET SAO SAO/R96P SAO/R96R RAW/R16 RAW/R96P RAW/R96R |
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cdrecord: Warning: The DMA speed test has been skipped. |
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Mounted media class: CD |
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Mounted media type: CD-R |
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Disk Is not erasable |
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data type: standard |
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disk status: complete |
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session status: complete |
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BG format status: none |
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first track: 1 |
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number of sessions: 1 |
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first track in last sess: 1 |
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last track in last sess: 11 |
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Disk Is not unrestricted |
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Disk type: CD-DA or CD-ROM |
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last start of lead in: 716730 |
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last start of lead out: 1166730 |
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Track Sess Type Start Addr End Addr Size |
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============================================== |
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1 1 Audio 0 23026 23027 |
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2 1 Audio 23027 44169 21143 |
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3 1 Audio 44170 63216 19047 |
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4 1 Audio 63217 76686 13470 |
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5 1 Audio 76687 117404 40718 |
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6 1 Audio 117405 131951 14547 |
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7 1 Audio 131952 142681 10730 |
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8 1 Audio 142682 161906 19225 |
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9 1 Audio 161907 185974 24068 |
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10 1 Audio 185975 217481 31507 |
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11 1 Audio 217482 263931 46450 |
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Last session start address: 0 |
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Last session leadout start address: 263932 |
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mark@lightning ~/Desktop $ |
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Both of the 'bad' CD-Rs are rippable in iTunes on my Windows laptop. |
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The issue here is clearly the car, but only with some CDs, and those |
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CDs are consistently bad. |
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I will see if I can decipher the cdrecord help file to try burning a |
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copy that way. |
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Thanks, |
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Mark |
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