Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to set size to windows in Openbox in local config [SOLVED]

[Miroslav Rovis]

I have solved the starting of urxvt windows (and other windows) in
Openbox, with startx (can probably be applied to other DE, the solution
was in Xorg, by its utilities).

On 170412-23:09+0200, Floyd Anderson wrote:
> On Mi, 12 Apr 15:25:32 +0200
> Miroslav Rovis <miro.rovis@××××××××××××××.hr> wrote:
> >On 170412-06:02+0200, Floyd Anderson wrote:
> >> On Di, 11 Apr 23:12:12 +0200
> >> Miroslav Rovis <miro.rovis@××××××××××××××.hr> wrote:
> >> >On 170411-20:37+0200, Miroslav Rovis wrote:
...
This...:
> To be pixel precise you can use x11-misc/wmctrl:
>     wmctrl -r :ACTIVE: -e 0,0,0,600,1000
> to reset the current terminal or:
>     ( urxvt -T test -e sh -c 'wmctrl -r :ACTIVE: -e 0,0,0,600,1000 && top' )
> to start a new one with a long running ‘top’.
...remains for me to try and play with it, but some other time... I've
spent many hours of these two days dedicatedly on this issue, and I have
to move to other matters in live and computing...

This too:
> For short living commands use ‘-hold’ to prevent a terminal closing:
>     ( urxvt -hold -T test \
>         -e sh -c 'wmctrl -r :ACTIVE: -e 0,0,0,150,50 && \
>         echo "hello world!"' )
> or the same without third party tools using terminal escape sequences:
>     ( urxvt -hold -T test \
>         -e sh -c 'echo -ne "\033[4;50;150t\033[3;0;0thello world!\n"' )
>
> The ‘-e’ option has the disadvantage that you cannot work in the terminal.
( Pls. see the attachment autostart_2017-04-13_miroR_borderless.txt,
more about it furthe below. )
Since we're at the '-e' option, I'm courious how come I could put:
 -e "top"
into the urxvt command in ~/.config/openbox/autostart, and also I could
put:
 -e "mutt"
into another urxvt line, but I couldn't put:
 -e "tail -f some-file"
nor:
 -e "sudo -s"
...
> ># tailf /var/log/messages
> Manual — once more ;-) — say:
>     “tailf is deprecated. It may have unfixed bugs and will be removed
>     from util-linux in March 2017. Nowadays it's safe to use tail -f
>     (from coreutils), […]”
Taken notice of.

> or `less +F /var/log/messages` to have a search ability after
> interrupting the file read.
As well.

...
Yes! In here lied the solution!
> Not sure what it is. Maybe I cannot see it due to:
>     URxvt.externalBorder: 0
>     URxvt.internalBorder: 0
> in my ‘${XDG_CONFIG_HOME}/X11/xresources.d/rxvt-unicode’ Xresources
> file. Try `urxvt -bl -b 0 -w 0 -g 100x100+0+0`. What does ‘xwininfo’ say
> about the ‘Absolute upper-left {X,Y}’, ‘Relative upper-left {X,Y}’ and
> ‘Border width’ for that kind of window creation?
Well, it was different that that, but your suggestions pushed me to
investigate! Pls. see these attachments:

_Xresources_no_fonts_borderless.txt

autostart_2017-04-13_miroR_borderless.txt

Because as I said, the solution was actually to be found on Xorg
premises. I may even not have very correctly named the file with the
crucial lines which I now added, i.e. with the starting underscore, but
that gives me no headaches at all, and then with the right entries in
the /home/miro/.config/openbox/autostart (the
autostart_2017-04-13_miroR_borderless.txt needs to be modified as needed
and placed in /home/<you>/.config/openbox/autostart ; I haven't used
much of any other desktops, but I'm sure any other desktop flavor
readers might use will have their ways to accomodate for these
configurations). And it now all works as I long wished it would.
...
But first, even though I don't need it currently, I want to reply:
> Another hint, what about i3 [1] or terminal multiplexer for window/pane
> arrangements? I personally have learned to love Tmux (that may the
I looked up both:
x11-wm/i3
and:
app-misc/tmux
and I think I would like better tmux, but...
But only if I didn't have to leave these issues and work on other
matters in my life and in computing.
>

The ~/.config/openbox/autostart, with this line, calls:

xrdb ~miro/_Xresources_no_fonts_borderless.txt
(I'll actually name it without the '.txt' extension, which is there so
the attachment may be better accessible from the web.)

But the autostart openbox's configuration file calls, with this line,

xrdb ~miro/.Xresources ( = the _Xresources_no_fonts_borderless.txt
                                  renamed )
with that line, autostart calls the:

~miro/.Xresources

I already explained in this morning email that I sent to this
gentoo-users' list:

How to set size to windows in Openbox in local config
https://lists.gt.net/gentoo/user/325333#325333

what other entries are in (now I hope the reader who wishes to configure
windows in openbox or other DE, has renamed it to:) .Xresources, and
what they do.

And these are the new entries in .Xresources that give the long
not-known-how-to-do-it 1-pixel border, black border (color #000000 is
black, just like #FFFFFF is white, and there are lots of colors in btwn)
on all the windows:

   URxvt.internalBorder: 1
   URxvt.borderColor: #000000

And now I can use the '-bl', because the windows will have a border!
NOTE: in case your background is black use the opposite, use #FFFFFF.

And that's it... If Floyd didn't provid advice, I may not have done it.
I think I probably wouldn't have done it. His advice and the information
he provided was crucial to the solutions presented in this topic.

I believe I can stick [SOLVED] in the subject line.

Only ERRATA may follow in the topic, as far as I am concerned.

Regards!
-- 
Miroslav Rovis
Zagreb, Croatia
https://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr