Gentoo Archives: gentoo-user

From: BRM <bm_witness@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Goodbye, Gentoo
Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 07:43:16
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Goodbye, Gentoo by Mark Shields
1 From: Mark Shields <laebshade@×××××.com>
2 >
3 >To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
4 >Sent: Thu, May 26, 2011 9:57:26 PM
5 >Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Goodbye, Gentoo
6 >
7 >
8 >On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 6:28 PM, Kevin O'Gorman <kogorman@×××××.com> wrote:
9 >
10 >It looks like it's time to take Gentoo off of my main machine. I feel a little
12 >sad about it, or I'd just quietly go away.
13 >>
14 >>A few months ago, an update made the machine headless -- well, it could no
15 >>longer bring up X but I could use the console-mode for admin, and log in via SSH
16 >>
17 >>from my laptop and run GUI programs. I was busy at the time, first deciding and
18 >>
19 >>then implementing my retirement, so I let it go.
20 >>
21 >>Now, a couple of months into my retirement, I'm trying to fix things up, and the
22 >>
23 >>latest Gentoo live disk cannot talk to my monitor at all. Whatever it's trying
24 >
25 >>is unacceptable to the HD monitor I've had on there for a year, and I can't even
26 >>
27 >>run the consoles. The video card is an ATI Rage XL on the motherboard. Like
28 >>the rest of the machine, it's vintage 2000, so maybe support got dropped. But
30 >>I'm not inclined to drop the machine -- it was the ballyhooed thing in Linux
31 >>Journal in 2002 when I finished my PHD, so I put together these pieces:
32 >>
33 >>* Two XEON chips. I didn't know it right away but that means 4 cores. They are
34 >>
35 >>old Pentium IV-based 32-bit chips. I got the slowest still being made, so the
37 >>clock speed is 1.6 GHz. On 4 cores, it's not bad at all.
38 >>
39 >>* 2GB of DDR ECC memory
40 >>* about a dozen hard drives (some old, but mostly 500GB - 2TB Sata drives), I
41 >>feel it's still worthy of respect. Some of these are in EZ-Dock docking
42 >>stations and are used for rotating backups (including off-site). The main
43 >>directories are on hardware RAID 1 so I have ongoing redundancy.
44 >>* a Smart UPS 1500 for everything except the laser printer.
45 >>
46 >>So, since I am familiar with Ubuntu from work, and have it on a couple of
47 >>laptops, I'm installing from the Ubuntu 11.04 live disk (video is just fine).
48 >>
49 >>The real headache is all the stuff I'm going to have to port.
50 >>
51 >>1) Apache and dynamic (Python CGI) web site.
52 >>2) Postfix
53 >>3) About a dozen accounts that just do wget(1) data gathering triggered by the
55 >>cron daemon.
56 >>4) DNS (I run my own domain on a commercial DSL account)
57 >>5) NTP client and server
58 >>6) Whatever else I forgot I set up over the years.
59 >>
60 >>My original reason for using Gentoo is that this machine was pretty exotic when
61 >
62 >>I bought it, and I wanted to be able to tweak the compiler to get the most out
64 >>of it. I can still do that for specific applications I'm working on, but
65 >>otherwise it's really a non-issue now. I have gotten pretty tired of updates
66 >>that take over 48 hours to compile, and the occasional mess-up that once or
67 >>twice led me to rebuild with empty-tree and took a week or so.
68 >>
69 >>
70 >>So I guess I shouldn't complain (and I'm not). I'm just not in the target
71 >>market for Gentoo any more. It was fun, though.
72 >>--
73 >>Kevin O'Gorman, PhD
74 >>
75 >>
76 >
77 >
78 >
79 >You let a small problem like the latest live cd not booting your system scare
80 >you away?
81 >
82 >Have you tried using an older live cd? If it's a video issue, maybe detecting
83 >your monitor wrong, how about turning on the framebuffer (there's an option for
85 >that)?
86 >It's doable man, don't give up.
88 Probably needs to switch to the open source radeon driver instead of the ATI
89 binary driver if he hasn't already too.
90 My 2004 laptop had that issue a couple years back. I initially installed the ATI
91 driver (which I haven't seemed to be able get rid of now), and then they (ATI)
92 dropped support for the R250 line-up.
93 I switched over the open source radeon driver and all works just fine and dandy.
95 Ben