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On 27/04/2013 00:11, Paul Hartman wrote: |
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> On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 3:54 PM, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@×××××.com> wrote: |
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>> On 26/04/2013 22:46, the guard wrote: |
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>>> Пятница, 26 апреля 2013, 22:41 +02:00 от Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@×××××.com>: |
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>>>> Do none of us here ever deal with Windows? :-) |
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>>>> I notice that no-one has yet mentioned that Windows does not do ntp, as |
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>>>> Windows does not do time right, doesn't do timezones right and I |
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>>>> strongly suspect can't even do dates right (this latter still unproven) |
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>>>> Windows time servers need some magic Microsoft thing called ENTP which |
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>>>> is in no way related to the ntp we all know and love |
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>>> It refuses to adjust time if you have a wrong date. timezone is set in your system |
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>> I was thinking more along the lines of how Windows has no concept of UTC |
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>> set in the hw clock and a local timezone, and how timezones are odd |
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>> things like Harare/Pretoria instead of the official names like |
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>> SAST GMT+2 as set by the scientific timekeeping community. |
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>> How about daylight savings? Can Windows deal with that? Other than by |
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>> just shoving the clock back and forward by an hour on the right days? |
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> I've used windows for the past 25,000+ work hours at my job (I wish |
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> that were an exaggeration) in an all-Microsoft corporate environment. |
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> I dare not declare myself an expert in anything Windows so as not to |
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> encourage more of it. :) |
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[snip much detail about Windows tying itself in knots to do something |
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quite simple] |
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> Now we return to our regularly-scheduled programming... |
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In comparison I have it easy :-) |
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The last time there was a leap-second all I had to do was check our time |
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servers tracked upstream wrt leap-*, and checked that my team's machines |
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did the same. ClusterSSH, bash, grep, sed and awk made this an exercise |
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in on-liner skills :-) |
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I then told the reat of the company using Unix to do the same, and the |
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whole thing was a non-event. |
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Now for the Windows fellows and the idiot running the Domain Controllers |
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in OurAmazingParentCompanyWhoThinkTheyAreCool(tm). Apparently they had a |
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torrid time of it, especially as they ignored all heads-up |
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communications from us. I don't know how they managed to fix all the |
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Windows workstations as we were quite happy to return that favour. |
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Alan McKinnon |
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alan.mckinnon@×××××.com |
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