Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is gnome becoming obligatory?

[Dale]

Marc Joliet wrote:
> Am Mittwoch, 13. Dezember 2017, 12:04:03 CET schrieb Neil Bothwick:
>> On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 10:06:29 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
>>> Some historical correctnesses about Canek:
>>>
>>> - He has been here for years
>>> - He has contributed here for years
>>> - He supports systemd and has offered more help and explanation about
>>> systemd to it's users on this list than any other single person, bar
>>> none
>>> - He has never, not once, slagged off SysV Init, OpenRC or any other
>>> init system, ot the creators or the users
>>> - He has never posted rude or inflamatory comments about anyone arguing
>>> against him
>>> - He has never resorted to ad-hominem and never posted any knee jerk
>>> opinions about any other poster wrt their stance on init systems
>>>
>>> If we look at the reverse we see a very different picture, and it's
>>> right here in this very thread. To the poster who rudely commented about
>>> Canek being a professor and that doesn't make him right and that he is
>>> one voice, step back pal and take a very long hard look at what you
>>> said. Yes, it doesn't make him right. Also doesn't make him wrong. His
>>> posts and the content are what make him right or wrong. There truly are
>>> fan bois on this list, but Canek is not one of them. It's the
>>> systemd-haters and Poeterring-haters who are being fan bois, painting
>>> all detractors with the same brush.
>> +1
>>
>> It was Canek's rational explanations about systemd that made me
>> interested enough to try it, and I'm glad I did. He made good technical
>> arguments in favour of it whereas most of the arguments against it are
>> either based on Lennartphobia or false fact gained from other systemd
>> haters.
> +1 to both Alan and Neil.
>
>> I also see the position as somewhat different with Gentoo, because openrc
>> is so much better than the other "traditional" systems out there, in fact
>> it shares some of the benefits of systemd. As a result, I run a mixture
>> of both systems. I prefer systemd now, but not enough to go through the
>> hassle of switching over an already working system. That wouldn't be the
>> case if those other systems weren't running openrc.
> That echoes my own sentiment pretty well.  OpenRC is one reason I stayed with
> Gentoo, because it seemed better to me than the way other distros did things
> (well, better than Suse, at least, which was the other distro I tried way back
> then).
>
> However, now I default to systemd, because for me it's even better than
> OpenRC.  Plus, I don't have so many systems that I couldn't migrate them all
> :-) .
>


And yet Canek is the only person on this mailing list to EVER get on my
blacklist for his posts.  That was years ago.  To this day, I don't get
any of his messages or read anything quoted from him.  Even the troll
who had his own script, kept griping about Gentoo and its update process
and refused to listen to anyone didn't make it to the blacklist level. 
Eventually, some comrel member or something booted them off the list. 

I have to say, -1 for me.  He managed to join a extremely exclusive club
with me.  He sits on a blacklist that no one else ever managed to get on. 

Dale

:-)  :-)