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On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Alan Mackenzie <acm@×××.de> wrote: |
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> Hi, everybody. |
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> Hope nobody minds me starting a new thread with an accurate name. |
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> Which version of udev is it that has this nauseating feature of needing |
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> /usr loaded to boot? |
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> Somewhere in that version's source will be several (or lots of) "/usr". |
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> Just how difficult is it going to be to replace "/usr/bin" with "/bin" |
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> throughout the source? |
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> udev is part of the kernel. How come the kernel hackers aren't up in |
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> arms about this as much as we are? Or are they, maybe? In which case, |
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> maybe the kernel people would welcome an option to disrequire the early |
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> mounting of /usr as much as we would. |
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> Anyhow, I'd like to take a peek at the source code which does this evil |
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> thing. Would somebody please tell me which version of udev is involved. |
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> Thanks. |
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(This would be my only post in this new thread: I think I have made my |
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point of view clear in the other thread). |
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I have seen a lot of disinformation going on in the other threads |
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(like some people suggesting that /var would not be able to be on its |
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own partition at some point in the future). Just before everyone start |
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to wildy conjecture, please take a look at this: |
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http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/separate-usr-is-broken |
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Also, a look at this thread is maybe justified: |
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http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.sysutils.systemd.devel/1728/ |
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Both things are in the context of systemd, but it's related to the |
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discussion at hand. I know not everybody wants to use systemd, and |
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think Lennart and Kay are the root of all that is wrong and evil on |
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the world, but I will recommend everyone interested in the reasons of |
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the push for a recommended initramfs to take a look at the page in |
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fd.org, and the thread in the systemd mailing list. Even if you don't |
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agree with the reasoning, it is worth to take a look at it. |
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As for me, I would say one last time my POV: Linux strives to be much |
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more than Unix, and that means do things differently. It will always |
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be capable of do anything that Unix does, and most of the time it will |
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do it better. But that doesn't (necessarily) means that it will do it |
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in the same way. |
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And many of us don't take "but my config/setup/partition works now" as |
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a valid argument to restrain progress. |
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Change happens. |
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Regards everyone. |
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-- |
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Canek Peláez Valdés |
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Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación |
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Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México |
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