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From: Mark David Dumlao <madumlao@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anyone switched to eudev yet?
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 08:04:23
Message-Id: CAG2nJkNDLDp2hkz34XXEen4SO1_Mm18G8NNDMZK6tqDr+ddWtA@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anyone switched to eudev yet? by Alan McKinnon
1 On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 11:10 PM, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@×××××.com> wrote:
2 >
3 > On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 10:16:05 +0200
4 > nunojsilva@×××××××.pt (Nuno J. Silva) wrote:
5 >
6 > > On 2012-12-14, Mark Knecht wrote:
7 > >
8 > > > I guess the other question that's lurking here for me is why do you
9 > > > have /usr on a separate partition? What's the usage model that
10 > > > drives a person to do that? The most I've ever done is
11 > > > move /usr/portage and /usr/src to other places. My /usr never has
12 > > > all that much in it beyond those two directories, along with
13 > > > maybe /usr/share. Would it not be easier for you in the long run to
14 > > > move /usr back to / and not have to deal with this question at all?
15 > >
16 > > I may be wrong in this one, but the idea I have is that your regular
17 > > applications (so, most of them) all lie under /usr/ -- /lib /bin and
18 > > others are for essential system tools.
19 > >
20 >
21 > That was the original reason for having / and /usr separate, and it
22 > dates back to the early 70s. The other reason that stems from that time
23 > period is the size of disks we had back then - they were tiny and often
24 > a minimal / was all that could really fit on the primary system drive.
25
26 I'm sorry, but I just can't let this one go. The reasons are
27 backwards. The limitation in free space was the original reason [1]
28 why / and /usr were separated. In fact, /usr was supposed to serve the
29 same purpose as /home - it was originally a directory for users. It's
30 only a quirk of history that served to keep most of the binaries in
31 /usr when the home directories were moved elsewhere to /home.
32
33 Long story short, Unix, too, has its share of old farts that are
34 unwilling to embrace change at anything faster than a glacier's pace.
35 Just ask the Plan 9 folks.
36
37 [1] http://lists.busybox.net/pipermail/busybox/2010-December/074114.html
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anyone switched to eudev yet? Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@×××××.com>