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Am Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 04:13:19PM -0400 schrieb Philip Webb: |
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> Since then, it hasn't worked out very well |
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> & I'm still relying on my 7-year-old machine (ANB5). |
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What hasn’t worked out specifically? |
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> I would like to have PCIe 4.0 , which is much faster than 3.0 , |
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> to improve Gentoo compile times ; I don't do gaming. |
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As Mark already mentioned – PCIe speed has no impact on compile times. It’s |
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only used for communication between CPU and {GPU, NVMe, Chipset}, or between |
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GPU and RAM. |
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> I want to buy from a physical store, not delivered by an on-line order, |
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> in case there's a defect, so that I can easily take it back to the store. |
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So you built the Ryzen system we talked about, and now want to start over? |
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> my impression is that if you get PCIe 4.0 , you don't get CPU graphics, |
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> but have to buy a separate graphics card ; |
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> if you have built-in graphics in the CPU, you get only PCIe 3.0. |
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That’s the way with AM3-socket APUs. It won’t be with AM4, but those are |
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probably still a year away (at least half a year). |
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Also, the new AM4 CPUs all have a basic iGPU inside, much like most Intels |
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have had until now. They won’t be much to write home about, but will be |
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sufficient for office and desktop. |
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> I might be willing to get an Intel CPU, |
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> but in their specifications there's no mention of PCIe (3 or 4) : |
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> is this an accident or are PCIe's confined to AMD ? |
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When I need such information, I like to go to Wikipedia. It has everything |
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under one roof, often in very similar formats for both vendors. Here’s a |
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description of Intel’s recent generation: |
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alder_Lake |
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And as you can see, those have 16×PCIe 5 for the graphics slot and another |
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4×4.0, probably for NVMe. The chipset is connected via Intel’s proprietary |
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DMI and connects to more mass storage, USB etc. |
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> Does anyone have any useful advice or suggestions ? |
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Well, we suggested stuff and advised on things. Please elaborate what hasn’t |
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worked out for you and why. |
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Grüße | Greetings | Salut | Qapla’ |
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